Confirmed with Link: [MTL/TB] Sergachev/Drouin II

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I approved of the move. It was a good trade in a vacuum. The fact that nothing else was done since then is worrisome though. And his contract was hasty.. but still, good trade.

Read my post again, I didn't insinuate that Drouin didn't earn anything - but that his style of game will change with the Habs. He's he go-to guy now, with more attention and coverage, in Tampa he was one of FIVE great forwards, one of which was the best goal scorer in the league.

As for hating, you want to trade Chucky, who is as good as Drouin, for a bag of pucks. Maybe you're the one who needs to change their MO - I just want a team to win a cup. You win with talent, you win with the right kind of roster. Drouin, good as he is, isn't going to mask all the flaws of our roster. You can't win with Markov as #1B and Danault as the first like C, Drouin or not.

Drouin's breakout was in that playoff run without Stamkos and last season, also without Stamkos. So I don't buy it. He had a great offensive season despite playing with Killorn and Namestnikov, two average at best offensive players.

I don't want to trade Galchenyuk for a bag of pucks. Since the team has about 25 wingers and 1 centre, I think trading our best asset for a centre makes sense.
 
That's a 20g pace.

It's almost as if Pacioretty is a narcissist who only scores against bad teams with bad défenses and cannot bring himself to try harder to score against good teams. Look at how he cheers - always subdued, he wants to project an image of professionalism but in fact is rarely consistent or actually useful against good teams.

I don't see how Drouin, soft perimeter player with attitude issues, will help him.

The more I think about the trade, the more I think Drouin wasn't a priority. I'm glad we have a top6 player but he's what, a 60 point LW? Meh. I'd prefer a 60 point C.

Sorry mister Seven, but you're wrong on that one. Drouin is not soft. Being confident doesn't mean you have an attitude issue.
 
Sorry mister Seven, but you're wrong on that one. Drouin is not soft. Being confident doesn't mean you have an attitude issue.
He's five foot whatever and thin as rails. He won't find an inch of space playing GrindPuck with luminaries no such as Benn and Danault feeding him.

And I respect confidence, I don't hold his holdout against him, be he does have a history of them.
 
Drouin's breakout was in that playoff run without Stamkos and last season, also without Stamkos. So I don't buy it. He had a great offensive season despite playing with Killorn and Namestnikov, two average at best offensive players.

I don't want to trade Galchenyuk for a bag of pucks. Since the team has about 25 wingers and 1 centre, I think trading our best asset for a centre makes sense.
24 of our wingers are worse than Chucky, so your asset management requires a bit of an adjustment.

My point with Drouin was that he won't play the same system or with as good players here. Danault is worse than Killorn for instance. With no PMDs and no one remotely like Hedman on the Habs, (I repeat) I don't see how anyone can expect to see Drouin's frame succeed in the same way he did in Tampa.

Even Radulov didn't break 60 points ffs.
 
24 of our wingers are worse than Chucky, so your asset management requires a bit of an adjustment.

My point with Drouin was that he won't play the same system or with as good players here. Danault is worse than Killorn for instance. With no PMDs and no one remotely like Hedman on the Habs, (I repeat) I don't see how anyone can expect to see Drouin's frame succeed in the same way he did in Tampa.

Even Radulov didn't break 60 points ffs.

But that's because he's not even a first line player. 53 points with 3:42 of powerplay time per game Drouin though? That's a win now move. :laugh:
 
24 of our wingers are worse than Chucky, so your asset management requires a bit of an adjustment.

My point with Drouin was that he won't play the same system or with as good players here. Danault is worse than Killorn for instance. With no PMDs and no one remotely like Hedman on the Habs, (I repeat) I don't see how anyone can expect to see Drouin's frame succeed in the same way he did in Tampa.

Even Radulov didn't break 60 points ffs.

I think your taking a bit of a negative approach at how Drouin will fit with the Habs. Drouin creates his own space with his speed and talent.

Lets look at our potential forward line-up as is right now:
Patch / Galchenyuk / Gallagher
Lehkonen / Danault / Drouin
Byron / Pleky / Shaw

Don't like it? Well mix it up as much as you can and Drouin is still playing either 2nd line or on the top line with even more talent. I watched him very closely with the Mooseheads a few years back. He's a spark plug out there (think Gallagher but with more speed and talent). Also think how he responded with Tampa when they sent him to the minors and he came back... that playoff run he had was dominate (as a 20 year old) and he generated a lot of scoring chances on his own!

Also, Danault stands to get even better. He's just touching his prime years.
 
Subban was fortunate to get to play under Guy Boucher. Sergachev will bypass Lefebvre by going straight to Julien either this year or the next.

I'm not the most informed poster, but wasn't Sergachev traded to Tampa?

I hate coming back to the boards after an absence. Forgive me.
 
Something to look forward to? They'll get stuck in their own zone 90% of the time.



Drouin might be a special bird and have "attitude issues", he's still not the guy you'll see getting wasted after a loss or between two games. In his holdout, he worked his ass off and when he came back he played amazing. Unlike coca-cola who spent his rehab time getting wasted and came back severely out of shape.

Do you have proof of any of this? Was he snorting blow off a hooker's ass between periods?
 
I don't want to trade Galchenyuk for a bag of pucks. Since the team has about 25 wingers and 1 centre, I think trading our best asset for a centre makes sense.

Agreed.

Which is why we should trade Pacioretty. Best contract, proven scoring record, mature. Should be able to get a very good centre for him.
 
Agreed.

Which is why we should trade Pacioretty. Best contract, proven scoring record, mature. Should be able to get a very good centre for him.

He would also bring us our best return. He has a ton of value at a low contract and putting up 30 plus year after year.
 
Drouin's breakout was in that playoff run without Stamkos and last season, also without Stamkos. So I don't buy it. He had a great offensive season despite playing with Killorn and Namestnikov, two average at best offensive players.

I don't want to trade Galchenyuk for a bag of pucks. Since the team has about 25 wingers and 1 centre, I think trading our best asset for a centre makes sense.

He had a fantastic offensive season on Tampa's power play playing mostly with Kucherov.

He had a lousy offensive season at even strength with Killorn and Namestnikov at even strength, scoring roughly at third line/second line tweener rate there.
 
He's five foot whatever and thin as rails. He won't find an inch of space playing GrindPuck with luminaries no such as Benn and Danault feeding him.

And I respect confidence, I don't hold his holdout against him, be he does have a history of them.

Therrien doesn't coach in Montreal any longer.
 


Those are some really big shoes to fill Jo.

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