Confirmed with Link: [MTL/TB] Sergachev/Drouin II

[loadie]

Drouin has always been a better player than Galchenyuk

Yeah, but not better than Begin.

 

[sandysan]

i really hope Coach Julien puts Drouin on the 2nd line with Artturi Lehkonen ; If those 2 form chemistry i could see the Flying Finn scoring 25+ goals in his 2nd full pro season . I'm trying to temper my hopes for Artturi but i really see something great in him . Drouin might be able to bring that out . From what i have seen/heard he makes players better around him . Habs need scoring and we have a budding goal scorer on our team . We need to give him the best chance to continue his development. Just food for thought

lehoken will score 25+ with whom as his center ? inquiring minds want to know.

Until we address the abysmal depth at center, point projections are a little premature, no ?

if we go in with Danault as our #1C ( I really really believe that the glachenyk as 1C ship has indeed sailed) its going to affect ANYONE who plays wing. and danault might still be out best choice !

Drouin is more talented than a lot of our wingers, but if his center is an albatross, thinking he will be successful in spite of the pivot, I don't get it.

 

[JohnLennon]

I was really excited about Sergachev. Sad to see him go. This could end up being a really good trade for the Habs regardless, as Drouin has an immense amount of talent and helps bring us closer to being more strong on offense.

That said, if we trade Galchenyuk for a defenseman, unless it is a clear win, I'll be disappointed. I'm not interested in seeing this team make lateral moves.

 

[sandysan]

If you've ever played on a team you know the selfish antics of a player DOES indeed have an impact on the culture of the team.

Subban is a talent there is no doubt. but all his peripheral B.S. takes away from TEAM.

yeah everyone know that milktoast players like paccioretty are what you need to keep a room together. It helps double if they persistently dissapear in the playoffs so long ans they are not " selfish" and only reserve their swearing to the media to one or two times a season.

The room in nashville ( with lavy ) don't seem to have a problem. I wonder why that is.

 

[Montreal Shadow]

5'11 185 is undersized?

An inch shorter and 15 pounds lighter than the average is undersized. He'll likely bulk up in the future though.

 

[habtastic]

Did you watch the playoffs this year?

Like really, who gives a **** about Subban antics. He was one of the best dmen if not the best.

apparently Nashville the organization and possibly his own teammates. It was not easy to spot when he was a Hab, but even though I still love PK, I've started to see what people were talking about. And sure, Brent Burns does the same thing, sort of, but PK I think unintentionally makes some very poor decisions and after seeing him try to be the center of attention off the ice well before the listerine thing, I can see how it would annoy people who have to deal with him EVERY DAY. Just saying, I can understand where the sentiment was coming from. He's still a class act, which makes it all the more confusing. I think he just might not be aware of how trying to be Don Cherry is sometimes grating.

[mod]. Subban destroys old man Weber defensively and offensively and the playoffs proved that. Weber had a good game 1 and 2, then he was just lost defensively until we got eliminated...Subban was killing it start to finish.

Sorry.

Wut??? Load of bs. Talk to Pacioretty please.

And yet all the French speaking fans are okay with the selfish antics of Drouin. I guess refusing to report to the farm team is type of the "character" that the Habs need.

The "antics" PK is accused of have nothing to do with contract stuff (even though to some they did; I thought MB was an idiot with that). I don't see Drouin trying to show up on every gameshow, hijack interviews, do all the fan service stuff, which as a fan is great and I loved, but again, I can see how to others...it wears thin.

Put it this way, if you had a room mate like him, he might be popular in general, but you might want to bash your head against a wall living with the guy. That said, MT/MB's reasons were totally bunk. I'm making a HUGE assumption that it was getting to his teammates, not just the fact that him and MT weren't seeing eye to eye. I guess one can't separate the variables there. Tbh, I think PK thinks he's funnier than he is. It gets cringe worthy. Anyway, doesn't stop him from being one of the best in the NHL. Also appreciated his comments/attitude after losing.

Don't get me wrong, Pacioretty's moping is 10000x more annoying (as a fan) than is anything PK has done.

The way Cooper screamed at him...

I wished MT screamed at Galchenyuk and treated Galchenyuk like Drouin was treated. There would have been a riot here.

I appreciate a player who stand his ground and answer the bell. He was their best PO performer in 2016. You know, it requires a massive pair of balls to do what Drouin did, and he answered the ****ing bell. That's not leadership and it's a bit egoist i agree. But that tells a lot about this kid talent and attittude. He is a ****ing winner.

Drouin has a special attittude for sure but he will thrive with the pressure here. Enjoy his talent. We are lucky to have him. There is a context that made him available to us and we should rejoice of this because player of his caliber are untouchable.

There's this too. I don't think he becomes a Ribeiro in MTL. And we are very lucky that his TB debacle happened, same as I guess Nashville fans are happy about what happened with PK here.

We don't need Dru to be a savior, but an ADDED talent. This means keeping Radulov. This means not trading Chucky for less talented pieces, but for equal or better. Long term, Sergachev would've added talent, by trading him we shortened tge waiting period to add said talent. If we trade any of Chucky, Casper or Gally, it has to be one-on-one for at least equal talent, but for different positions and needs.

I'm no fan of the Leddy-Beauvillier idea.

Exactly. Drouin will only have the impact we expect if we keep the core of fwds we already have. When Pacioretty disappears, Drouin will be there to pick up the slack/make sure Pacioretty doesn't disappear. We still need Galchenyuk, Radulov, Gallagher, Lek, et al. Look at other teams' offenses. They don't just get one very good player and call it a day.

I also am no fan of Leddy-Beuvillier even in the best case scenario that they produce extremely well, cuz Beauvillier isn't a C. Chucky is. Are we going to force Drouin to play C? How long before he gets the same criticism? Oh right, there's something about him, DD, Danault that may shield him.

 

[Talks to Goalposts]

Different players for sure. Stamkos to Kucherov.

Drouin doesn't much resemble Kucherov. Kucherov is a top level goal scorer. Drouin is, well, the opposite of that.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

What would your opinion be of a trade involving Galchenyuk and a 1st for Leddy and Beauvillier? Assuming (huge assumption, I don't believe it is true btw) the rumours are actually true.

Overpayment, IMO. I want Leddy, but not at the expense of Chucky. Package Chucky for a good C. If we lose him, we lose a minimum 50 point guy with hands.

Drouin might not be a saviour but if we keep Radulov and Galchenyuk we should see a pretty dramatic improvement. Drouin could very possibly be our best forward. He's almost like a mini-Radulov.

Really really have a bad feeling that MB's going to make that trade to make the Drouin acquisition moot though. We do need D but not at the expense of Galchenyuk. Unless we make more moves.

Not a hater but MB has a nack for making a good move and countering it with something bad.

Agreed.

Its the HF effect.

Mete is suddenly better than Sergachev, Drouin is suddenly better than Galchenyuk and conversely, Sergachev is now Lidstrom on the main boards and Drouin is Steve Begin.

Yeah, but seeing that inconsistency within the same people is absurd. Like that certain poster who railed against Weber in favour of Subban and then literally switched after the trade.

5'11 185 is undersized?

Absolutely it is. He doesn't, and can't, throw his body around. Pleks is undersized. Pacioretty doesn't use his frame. Chucky isn't quick enough to take leverage his properly. Gallagher too small. Radulov is the only one who knows how to use his body. Lehkonen can learn.

Our weak top 6, anchored by Pleks and Patches, has hurt our team in many ways.

 

[windycity]

I like the Drouin deal and I'm happy we got him.

But I can't help thinking we would have been better served using Sergachev to help us land a #1/#2 center. Guess we'll see what other tricks Bergy has up his sleeve.

 

[MXD]

Absolutely it is. He doesn't, and can't, throw his body around. Pleks is undersized. Pacioretty doesn't use his frame. Chucky isn't quick enough to take leverage his properly. Gallagher too small. Radulov is the only one who knows how to use his body. Lehkonen can learn.

Our weak top 6, anchored by Pleks and Patches, has hurt our team in many ways.

Wut?

 

[windycity]

Overpayment, IMO. I want Leddy, but not at the expense of Chucky. Package Chucky for a good C. If we lose him, we lose a minimum 50 point guy with hands.

Yup, if we deal Galchenyuk it has to be to get a good C. Unless somebody throws a ridiculous package for him which ain't gonna happen

 

[Lebowski]

I like the Drouin deal and I'm happy we got him.

But I can't help thinking we would have been better served using Sergachev to help us land a #1/#2 center. Guess we'll see what other tricks Bergy has up his sleeve.

I'd agree in theory, but you look at the names that could be available, like Duchene or RNH, and I'd much rather have Drouin, even if he's more of a natural winger.

Doesn't mean we can't make a play for those guys with some other assets though.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

Wut?

What?

Drouin can learn too, but both him and Lehks will have limited physical upside. Our top6's size problem, and now intangible problem (Chucky, Drouin, Radulov, and Patches have all shown flashes of poor performance, judgement, or character on and off the ice) is everlasting, perennial. We're always going to have a pop-gun or inconsistent offense without adding some actual size to the top6 and getting rid of physically fearful players.

Yup, if we deal Galchenyuk it has to be to get a good C. Unless somebody throws a ridiculous package for him which ain't gonna happen

Chucky should stay. Barring that, Chucky should be traded for an upgrade at forward. Nothing else will make sense.

 

[windycity]

I'd agree in theory, but you look at the names that could be available, like Duchene or RNH, and I'd much rather have Drouin, even if he's more of a natural winger.

Doesn't mean we can't make a play for those guys with some other assets though.

Yeah I get it.

 

[windycity]

Chucky should stay. Barring that, Chucky should be traded for an upgrade at forward. Nothing else will make sense.

Yup. I'd keep him at C and just go with it.

 

[MXD]

What?

Drouin can learn too, but both him and Lehks will have limited physical upside. Our top6's size problem, and now intangible problem (Chucky, Drouin, Radulov, and Patches have all shown flashes of poor performance, judgement, or character on and off the ice) is everlasting, perennial. We're always going to have a pop-gun or inconsistent offense without adding some actual size to the top6 and getting rid of physically fearful players.

That's better. It's just that a post picturing Lehkonen and Drouin in a differently light when it comes to size and physicality is just... not very factual. If one is undersized and can't throw his weight around, the same applies to the other.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

That's better. It's just that a post picturing Lehkonen and Drouin in a differently light when it comes to size and physicality is just... not very factual. If one is undersized and can't throw his weight around, the same applies to the other.

So you agree that Drouin's effectiveness is at risk in our top6?

 

[Uncle Gary]

Size is important in some aspects but skill is always more important. Look no further than the Pittsburgh Penguins. If Galchenyuk is retained and Radulov is re-signed then I feel we finally have a good offensive group with skill. The D will take a hit but with Price it never really was a problem. Hopefully this team can finally get him some goals on a consistent basis.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

We have some good shooters on this team, all Galchenyuk, Pacioretty, Lehkonen and even Gallagher have pretty good shots but aren't the greatest passers.. adding a guy with vision and playmaking like Drouin will not only improve our PP but he'll make whoever he plays with that much better.

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

I have very happy with the Drouin deal, talent wise Drouin is not that far from McDavid.

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

Why lol, you will see Drouins talent, I still can't believe we got him.

 

[Justin11]

I have very happy with the Drouin deal, talent wise Drouin is not that far from McDavid.

Drouin is very talented...but no...

 

[OldCraig71]

I have very happy with the Drouin deal, talent wise Drouin is not that far from McDavid.

Wow, I guess we really did do well in this trade!!!

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

You will see.

 

[Montreal Shadow]

You will see.

We will see Drouin score 100pts and win the Art Ross and likely the Hart? Alright. I shall be waiting.