Confirmed with Link: [MTL/TB] Sergachev/Drouin II

[Goldenhands]

Because it's easier to commit yourself long term towards a 28 year old than a 30 year old. The maximum contract would lead him to 36 yeasrs old instead of 38. Huge difference. Also you would be paying for better quality years over the length of that contract. Pretty simple logic if you ask me

Correct, it makes sense obviously..

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

Chucky can pass the puck alright... I disagree with the notion he's a shooter. He can do pretty much anything in the offensive zone.

Except skate with the puck on his stick. There's a reason we can all recognize Prust's impression in that video from practise. Both Drouin and Radulov are much better than Chucky in that regard.

 

[Belial]

Chucky can pass the puck alright... I disagree with the notion he's a shooter. He can do pretty much anything in the offensive zone.

Drouin is a much dynamic and creative playmaker than him.

If the idea is to play that center with Pacioretty give me Drouin over Chucky any day of the week.

Pacioretty has to change his game and become a playmaker himself when he plays with Alex.

 

[Clearedwaivers]

33 million. The club probably makes that back in the first year with Drouin jersey sales lol.

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

Drouin is a much dynamic and creative play maker than him.

If the idea is to play that center with Pacioretty give me Drouin over Chucky any day of the week.

Pacioretty has to change his game and become a play maker himself when he plays with Alex.

While I remain a bit skeptical about Drouin's potential impact at C (especially in the faceoff dot and in his own end), he can drop pucks on pillows for shooters better than anyone else we have/had, and can find spaces to do it where not many others can.

 

[Goldenhands]

We have the cap space to sign Radu and Chucky...

We would be loaded on the wings...

Maybe Bergevin is going to invent something new here, win with loaded wings and defensive responsible centers.

lol Hopefully not, we saw how it worked with Danault last playoffs.. Also Ive been a Pleks fan for yrs but its time to part with the guy, I would offer Vegas a 2nd round pick just to have that 6M back..

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

We need a PMD. Brodin is the opposite of that. How is he what we need?

People keep clamouring on about "PMD", seemingly unaware that not even a team like Nashville (with Josi and Subban on separate lines) relies on their defensemen to lug the puck up the ice unless the space is given to them - in which case just about anyone could gain the red line, at least. Sure, a guy like Karlsson is able to dictate the game doing it as the best player at what he does, but when you watch hockey around the league, pretty much everyone outside of Ottawa puts a priority on avoiding having defense carry the puck from red line to red line.

So to say we "need" this particular quality is to ignore how good our group typically is at making the small plays and good reads that put the pucks into the hands of forwards moving forward as soon as possible. Teams like the Penguins, even with Letang in the lineup, excel because they get pucks into the hands of talented forwards asap and letting the defense join in layers rather than have guys standing at the other blueline waiting to see what the defenseman does.

Therein lies the rub: you need talented forwards. Probably even more than defensemen capable of executing end-to-end rushes. And unless you have forwards capable of gaining the zone with possession, you better be amazing on the retrievals. PMDs don't particularly help with that.

 

[Gyfu]

looks like HABS are willing to overlook "attitude" on "hometown boy" but have issues with non "native" Galy

come on man, (not aimed only at you btw) but the kid is barely 22 ffs... listen, i didn't like his primadonna bs either, he's still a f***in kid though, let's cut him some slack... don't get me wrong, i love chucky and didn't think he had a fair shot after putting 25pts in 28 games as a C (i know i'm gonna get s*** on for that but he was never really a C to me anyways) i still love what he brings to the team and would be mad if we gave him away for anyone less talented... and i LOVED misha too... a lot actually, but complaining about this move seems like blind hate to me... we needed offense, we got offense... we didn't trade sergachev for freakin 48 year old joe thornton or anything, we got a legit 22 year old top 6 fwd... nothing to do with nationality... for me anyways

 

[MasterDecoy]

curious to see how our slightly more evolved version of therrien handles him

im so excited

Has Shot Suppression stats are actually above average.... not great, not even very good... just slightly above average.

In other words, not a world beater defensively, but not a liability either.

On the Hero Chart, he's a 6/10. Chuck is a 2/10. (5 = average, 10 = elite).

everytime i see a hero chart, god kills a kitten

 

[BaseballCoach]

Looks like it's going to be Galchenyuk.

Hoping it'll be Pacioretty.

Just use Galchenyuk as a C and live with the growing pains.

Yes!

Get LV to take Plekanec, then try something like this:

Pacioretty-Drouin-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Galchenyuk-Radulov
Byron-Danault-Shaw
Hudon-DeLaRose-McCarron
.....Martinsen, Mitchell

Beaulieu-Weber
Markov-Petry
Emelin-Benn
...Jerabek

 

[Clearedwaivers]

Julien could be just what the doctor ordered for Drouin's development, be it at center or wing. He's known to be able to work well with younger players. That's why I think it would be a shame to move Chucky now. Give him a full year under Julien , and see how he does. Personally I would like to see Chucky and Drouin play together, and possibly use Patches to acquire a center.

 

[Kshahdoo]

I'm right with you man. You know what I hate the most about this trade? Drouin is an over the hill has been immature son of a ***** at 22.

Ughhh Hate Bergevin with all my guts. Let's start a march or something.

Seguin was once considered an "immature son of a ***** at 22". Look at him now.

 

[Corky]

Yes!

Get LV to take Plekanec, then try something like this:

Pacioretty-Drouin-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Galchenyuk-Radulov
Byron-Danault-Shaw
Hudon-DeLaRose-McCarron
.....Martinsen, Mitchell

Beaulieu-Weber
Markov-Petry
Emelin-Benn
...Jerabek

Looking at this line-up, we are actually not that far. The only potential move I would see is moving Galchenyuk for an equal talent at C, but I do not see it happening.

Edit: That equal talent at C could be Mackinnon. Value is really not that far off.

 

[ECWHSWI]

Drouin is a much dynamic and creative playmaker than him.

If the idea is to play that center with Pacioretty give me Drouin over Chucky any day of the week.

Pacioretty has to change his game and become a playmaker himself when he plays with Alex.

you have countless posts saying Galchenyuk cannot pay C cause he's not good enough defensively and his FO is not good...

so why in hell would YOU be ok with Drouin at C then ? ? ? ? ?

 

[BLONG7]

A 1-2 center punch made of Drouin and Galchenyuk is what the Habs have been lacking for years.

They are lucky to have both.

If CJ lets them actually be centremen? I think there is at least one more deal, with a real centreman on the way...

I see both of these kids, as wingers...but?

 

[Whitesnake]

You have to love those players that just put opponents on their heel. And that's what Drouin does. Expect the unexpected Bergie said....well expect the unexpected on the ice with Drouin too. Reason why he has so much room. Reason why he can help others being better. We needed that kind of player so much.

 

[Rapala]

We'll finally get rid of Gaston Therrien eternal insanity about Quebecers, that was a major problem too.

Not sure why you think this?
it could actually get worse if Drouin is halfway good.

 

[Belial]

you have countless posts saying Galchenyuk cannot pay C cause he's not good enough defensively and his FO is not good...

so why in hell would YOU be ok with Drouin at C then ? ? ? ? ?

Cuz I think Drouin is not as lost as Chucky and his game is actually suited for a center?

And this is only propositions here, I need to actually see him play there to be able to judge adequately.

If we could get a #1 center I would probably play Drouin on the wing but we might have no choice but to play him at center...

 

[vokiel]

Cuz I think Drouin is not as lost as Chucky and his game is actually suited for a center?

And this is only propositions here, I need to actually see him play there to be able to judge adequately.

If we could get a #1 center I would probably play Drouin on the wing but we might have no choice but to play him at center...

Since when? The guy can't take a faceoff to save his life. You might as well move Patches to center and say his game is suited for it.

 

[CHarlie]

Since when? The guy can't take a faceoff to save his life. You might as well move Patches to center and say his game is suited for it.

If you are talking Drouin he is at the 50% mark on faceoffs so...............

 

[DangerDave]

Exactly....... why would you give up on the unknown?

Yes that's worked so well with Tinordi and Beaulieu.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Apparently Bergy hasn't learned his lesson about signing players long term before they play a game for your team.

 

[vokiel]

If you are talking Drouin he is at the 50% mark on faceoffs so...............

No, he's at 43.6 in 220 attempts in 73 games. That's his last season face off performance. He's not a center regardless of his play making skills. He's always been an elite shooter/offensive player first. We have problems with our offensively minded center because some beat on him for not playing enough defense and now these people want to convert an elite winger to center who was blamed for the EXACT same thing?

Some people need a slap or a beer.

And I was liking my idea of converting Beaulieu into a center because he's big better anyway.

How about converting Gallagher into a goaltender because he spends tons of time in the crease?

 

[DangerDave]

I mean it's... It's not about that... At all. You know what I'm saying I mean... But it's...it's easy to, to talk about... It's easy to sum it up when you're just talking about plus/minus. We're sitting in here, and Drouin's supposed to be the new franchise centre, and we in here talking about plus/minus. I mean, listen, we're talking about plus/minus, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about plus/minus. Not a game. Not, not … Not the game that he goes out there and die for and play every game like it's his last. Not the game, but we're talking about plus/minus, man. I mean, how silly is that? … And we talking about plus/minus. I know its a stat thats there. I know NHL.com uses it as an example... I know that... And I'm not.. I'm not shoving it aside, you know, like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I do. I honestly do... But we're talking about plus/minus, plus/minus man. What are we talking about? plus/minus? We're talking about plus/minus, man. We're talking about plus/minus. We're talking about plus/minus. We ain't talking about the game. We're talking about plus/minus, man. When you come to the arena, and you see Drouin play, you see him play don't you? You've seen him give everything he got, right? But we're talking about plus/minus right now. We talking about plus/minus....

Man look, I hear you... it's funny to me too, I mean it's strange... it's strange to me too, but we're talking about plus/minus man, we're not even talking about the game... the actual game, when it matters... We're talking about plus/minus…

Lol the classic Iverson interview. Most don't get it seemingly

 

[Rickkins]

I cannot believe this. Trade away a brilliant potential top d-man, for a twenty goal scorer.