Eklund Rumor: Mtl "All In" on Yakupov
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Right on the money.
Yakupov looks good with skilled centres. We know what he is. He's a complimentary player, he'll never be effective as a driver or paired up with "gritty" 3rd liners. If we're unwilling to give him a chance with a skilled centre, cut ties now. It's in everyone's interest, but I'm hoping he gets one final shot with McDavid.
He's got an outstanding release and velocity on his shot, with McDavids generational vision and hockey IQ, he'll find a way to tee it up for Yakupov in prime scoring areas.
I say this knowing that Darnell Nurse was less than impressive last year, but your 'bonafide NHLer' managed to score as many points (and no goals) as Nurse while logging just as many minutes as him last season. He did manage to blow Darnell out of the water in the giveaways department though...
Sign me up...
All in on Yakupov? The guy with a 3rd round pick rumored asking price?
An asking price would suggest that's what the Oilers are expecting as a return. If that were true, he would've been traded a long time ago.
All in on Yakupov? The guy with a 3rd round pick rumored asking price?
That rumor that he could be had for a 3rd likely originated with Eklund, though, so its not likely true.
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All in on Yakupov? The guy with a 3rd round pick rumored asking price?
Rumoured by who? If all Chiarelli wanted was a 3rd for Yak, then he wouldn't be an Oiler right now.
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Yak has never personally requested a trade. I don't doubt the Oil have shopped him, but I doubt the potential returns ever properly reflected his value (when considering upside). And therein lies the point of contention - do other teams see and value that upside? I would say obviously not, otherwise we would have seen a deal.
Yak is undoubtedly a tarnished player with many holes to his game, but he also possesses some elite level skill. He's got a heavy shot and quick release. He's a very good stick handler, as well as a powerful skating stride. You don't get drafted 1st overall without some high end aspects to your game.
Obviously his weaknesses are glaring, but they are also correctable to a degree. His processing of the game is lacking, but if deployed the right way he won't be in many situations where he's relied on to make quick decision defensively (ie: first man in on the forecheck, pressuring the D at the point in his own zone). Positioning is also a weakness. That can be coached. He works hard, his teammates have always said good things about him (Scrivens recently).
Either way, there's no way a 2nd Rd pick is more valuable to the Oil than giving Yak another try.
Yep. The question occurs at 1:07.
The rumour originated from some Russian media source. I wouldn't doubt Larionov had some part in it as well. I have the utmost respect for the man as a player, but he has been a bit flaky as an agent. I don't think he's been a fan of the Oilers organization from the get go (can't blame him though I guess).
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All in on Yak? Really? Wtf?
3rd or maybe a late 2nd pick will get Habs Yak.
Which EDM hangs up on.
We don't want magic beans or prospects. We want to win now.
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(straight out of Chiarelli's mouth) that Yakupov didn't ask for a trade. Way to sidestep the truth. Of course Yakupov didn't ask for a trade.He got his agent to do it for him as indicated below by Chiarelli's refusal to comment on the agent question
Doesn't really matter at this stage.
Having Yakupov means they can ease Puljujarvi in (especially if he needs AHL time). After Eberle the Oilers RW depth is thin.
So there's not much incentive for the Oilers to trade him now. If he was going to be dealt, it would've happened at the draft.
A 2nd or 3rd round pick is not really going to do much for the Oilers now. Yakupov could also be expansion draft bait so he has value in that capacity if he can string together 20-30 decent games he could be a decent reclamation project for Las Vegas to take a swing at and that shelters the Oilers from losing someone else like maybe a Davidson.
Having Yakupov means they can ease Puljujarvi in (especially if he needs AHL time). After Eberle the Oilers RW depth is thin.
So there's not much incentive for the Oilers to trade him now. If he was going to be dealt, it would've happened at the draft.
A 2nd or 3rd round pick is not really going to do much for the Oilers now. Yakupov could also be expansion draft bait so he has value in that capacity if he can string together 20-30 decent games he could be a decent reclamation project for Las Vegas to take a swing at and that shelters the Oilers from losing someone else like maybe a Davidson.
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Honestly I have no predictions for how many wins we'll have. I just want to see the team battle hard with 100% effort every night and not quit until the game is over. No more going in defeated before the game even starts.
Start by playing like it's your last game with heart and soul every game. That's the 1st step.
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How about focusing on the point of his post - a 2nd round pick does less for us than giving Yak another shot.
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oh jeez...
did you even listen to the clip at 1:07, or just taking another opportunity to see the negative with respect to all things edmonton?
Chia actually interrupts the reporter when the reporter is challenging him on "but his agent did". Chia says "no [interupting]... [pause]... no [pause], ummm, so, I'm not going to comment on that.
The "not going to comment on that" was clearly in reference to the earlier premise of the question which was "did you try to trade him". Not sure how you can interpret the exchange as Chia doing anything but denying the trade request from ANY source (Yak or agent).
Did he TRY to trade Yak? : No comment.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. All signs point to Edmonton being willing to part with Yak FOR THE RIGHT PRICE. But a bunch of non-1st picks is NOT what Edmonton would be looking for.
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Which means nothing to us. We are trying to get better today, right now. Any move that doesn't make us better immediately is hung up on.
Yak will be an Oiler. If he does move, a current actual NHL player needs to come back. No magic beans.
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Reporter: Yakupov said he wanted a trade. Did you try to trade him at the draft?
Chiarelli: He never told me he wanted a trade.
Reporter: His agent did, though.
Chiarelli: No. No. I'm not going to comment on that.
Above Posted by one of your own.
Maybe you should go back and listen again.
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Boy you know everything don't you? Not that I'm all that interested in getting Yakupov, he might actually flourish getting fed the puck by Galchenyuk (who by now btw is a far better shooter than Yakupov ever was) but other than that you may keep him. However, why so adamant in not getting futures for him? Edmonton isn't on the brink of contention/making the playoffs and you won't get anything else other than an other reclamation project for him as a warm NHL body. What's the point? Might as well start over with that selection.
With the right centre, Yakupov has been effective (e.g. Horcoff, Roy, McDavid.)
He's only paid $2.5m.
Edmonton's depth on the right wing isn't deep.
2nd to 3rd round picks rarely return a player.
Yakupov exposed in the expansion lottery may mean that Las Vegas takes him and not one of the defenders (Davidson)
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