Morgan Rielly suspended for five games for cross-checking Ridly Greig in the head (Mod note in OP); upd: Rielly appealing his suspension (upheld)

[ACC1224]

oh I know what happened...psychological frail folks have anger management problems and interpret Ridleys exclamation point on the win a sign of disrespect...and for some that justifies an attempt to injure another union brother with a blow to the head with a carbon weapon..

LOL

bunch of pansies...

Yeah, you don't have a very good grasp of the situation or the game in general.

 

[featherhawk]

If it was a slapshot, you would have to be.

I can't imagine Matthews, Marner or Nylander would take a slapshot at an ENG from 6 feet out.

In fact, I can't imagine any player would. Can we name any other players to have done this in the last 10 years?

Matthews has 8 career ENG and none of them has been a slapshot. I cannot see that changing.

so if someone does, which is within the rules of the game he should be assaulted with a carbon weapon to the head?

what a f***ed up view

 

[I am Canadian]

Not sure why this is still a debate.

1) Rielly should not have put a stick in the face of Greig. This is obvious.
2) A slapshot into an empty net is universally disliked by the majority of NHLers [Including some Ottawa Senators]. There is no rulebook stating that you can't do this, but you should definitely expect a response when showboating.

Every single team in the NHL would respond to a player trying to embarass them in the manner that Greig did. Most would likely not put a stick into his face however.

 

[featherhawk]

Yeah, you don't have a very good grasp of the situation or the game in general.

on the contrary, I do

unfortunately, others don't have is the ability to access the common sense that they were born with...

a slapshot on a net with a goalie or without a goalie does not warrant or justify Morgan to attack Ridley's head with a carbon weapon.

 

[umma gumma]

Yeah the reality is outside of the Sens young players, the majority of NHLers are more on Rielly's side here.

Where are the other 350 opinions? Yeah majority. Have the majority of them spoken of the situation? Have you heard every interview? Making stuff up is easy.

Some NHLers and ex NHLs that have no problem with the slap shot either.

 

[featherhawk]

Not sure why this is still a debate.

1) Rielly should not have put a stick in the face of Greig. This is obvious.
2) A slapshot into an empty net is universally disliked by the majority of NHLers [Including some Ottawa Senators]. There is no rulebook stating that you can't do this, but you should definitely expect a response when showboating.

Every single team in the NHL would respond to a player trying to embarass them in the manner that Greig did. Most would likely not put a stick into his face however.

you forgot to add

3) NHL players should be respectful to the game and union brothers in defeat instead of reacting like sore losers and trying to injure someone...

 

[umma gumma]

Not sure why this is still a debate.

1) Rielly should not have put a stick in the face of Greig. This is obvious.
2) A slapshot into an empty net is universally disliked by the majority of NHLers [Including some Ottawa Senators]. There is no rulebook stating that you can't do this, but you should definitely expect a response when showboating.

Every single team in the NHL would respond to a player trying to embarass them in the manner that Greig did. Most would likely not put a stick into his face however.

Pretty sure he expected a response, as anyone should. Just not lumber to the face.

 

[LeafGrief]

so if someone does, which is within the rules of the game he should be assaulted with a carbon weapon to the head?

what a f***ed up view

I think it's really funny that you keep putting "carbon weapon" in place of hockey stick as if that somehow changes anything. Your body is made of carbon, is a fist a carbon weapon? Trees are made up of carbon, is shooting a spitball a carbon weapon?

Your posts scream hubris

And the parts about union brothers are just... SO internet.

 

[featherhawk]

I think it's really funny that you keep putting "carbon weapon" in place of hockey stick as if that somehow changes anything. Your body is made of carbon, is a fist a carbon weapon? Trees are made up of carbon, is shooting a spitball a carbon weapon?

Your posts scream hubris

And the parts about union brothers are just... SO internet.

does Carbon Fibre Hockey stick make you happy?

call it what you want, its assault with a weapon to the head

 

[TheBeastCoast]

on the contrary, I do

unfortunately, others don't have is the ability to access the common sense that they were born with...

a slapshot on a net with a goalie or without a goalie does not warrant or justify Morgan to attack Ridley's head with a carbon weapon.

It’s called a hockey stick there champ.

 

[featherhawk]

It’s called a hockey stick there champ.

Okay sweety...

I call it a weapon cause that is what Morgan used it as, he did not use it as a hockey stick

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

I think it's really funny that you keep putting "carbon weapon" in place of hockey stick as if that somehow changes anything. Your body is made of carbon, is a fist a carbon weapon?

Human body is 60% water so I guess it makes waterboarding okay?

 

[ACC1224]

Not sure why this is still a debate.

1) Rielly should not have put a stick in the face of Greig. This is obvious.
2) A slapshot into an empty net is universally disliked by the majority of NHLers [Including some Ottawa Senators]. There is no rulebook stating that you can't do this, but you should definitely expect a response when showboating.

Every single team in the NHL would respond to a player trying to embarass them in the manner that Greig did. Most would likely not put a stick into his face however.

This guy gets it, like most.

on the contrary, I do

unfortunately, others don't have is the ability to access the common sense that they were born with...

a slapshot on a net with a goalie or without a goalie does not warrant or justify Morgan to attack Ridley's head with a carbon weapon.

This guy doesn't.

 

[LeafGrief]

does Carbon Fibre Hockey stick make you happy?

call it what you want, its assault with a weapon to the head

So is a carbon based lifeform fist to the face, but that seems to be the suggested course of action for Rielly to have taken.

Perhaps you are the enlightened one who is here to tell us stupid, archaic, savages about the utopian unionized future that we could live in if we were only to leave behind all of this toxic culture. But really, that sounds like the Jehova's Witnesses and I'm perfectly happy watching men fight each other for entertainment purposes. Good luck on achieving your progress!

 

[LivingRentFree]

If Matthews, Marner, or Nylander took a shot into an empty net that a dman on the other team thought was inappropriate, are you okay with any of those three getting a cross-check to the head while they celebrate? Under the strict understanding that there is no guarantee of it being an "injury-free" cross-check to the head?

It was to the shoulder, it rode up.

And yeah, play stupid games, win stupid prizes

what accidental head shot are you referring to?

I am good, dont need an assessment, when I play a game or a sport and I get beat, I congratulate my opponent on their efforts and create continuous quality improvement strategies for myself and my team to get better. So the next time we wont be sore losers...

I don't intentionally physically assault my opponent and try to scramble his brains

Again, if you think Morgan Rielly intended to hit him 100% in the head, we have nothing further to discuss.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

It was to the shoulder, it rode up.

And yeah, play stupid games, win stupid prizes

Straight to the head, no reason to deflect.

Reilly having any games reduced would be an insult to the player who crosschecked Zub.

Defending a crosscheck to the head after a goal is certainly remarkable.

 

[umma gumma]

It was to the shoulder, it rode up.

And yeah, play stupid games, win stupid prizes


Again, if you think Morgan Rielly intended to hit him 100% in the head, we have nothing further to discuss.

Stop making stuff up.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Not sure why this is still a debate.

1) Rielly should not have put a stick in the face of Greig. This is obvious.
2) A slapshot into an empty net is universally disliked by the majority of NHLers [Including some Ottawa Senators]. There is no rulebook stating that you can't do this, but you should definitely expect a response when showboating.

Every single team in the NHL would respond to a player trying to embarass them in the manner that Greig did. Most would likely not put a stick into his face however.

Absolutely none would. Perhaps Tom Wilson and Reilly.

The rest would start a scrum.

 

[featherhawk]

So is a carbon based lifeform fist to the face, but that seems to be the suggested course of action for Rielly to have taken.

Perhaps you are the enlightened one who is here to tell us stupid, archaic, savages about the utopian unionized future that we could live in if we were only to leave behind all of this toxic culture. But really, that sounds like the Jehova's Witnesses and I'm perfectly happy watching men fight each other for entertainment purposes. Good luck on achieving your progress!

well if Morgan was not such a coward he would have chosen to Fight Ridley Grieg, but alas, he cowers behind a weapon and attacks a person in the head with it cause he got his knickers in a knot as a result of his team being outworked by an opponent

cause its the respectfull thing to do...

what happened to holding your head high in defeat instead of being a sore loser that has anger management issues

 

[All Mod Cons]

Can anyone please explain why we do not see more slapshots taken at empty nets?

 

[SEALBound]

If it was a slapshot, you would have to be.

I can't imagine Matthews, Marner or Nylander would take a slapshot at an ENG from 6 feet out.

In fact, I can't imagine any player would. Can we name any other players to have done this in the last 10 years?

Matthews has 8 career ENG and none of them has been a slapshot. I cannot see that changing.

That doesn't really matter because it's not an impossibility in the future.

Really, any of them could just use more force with ANY shot and if the other team deems it "disrespectful", then is it okay for them to cross-check Matthews, Marner, or Nylander in the head? Again, under the strict understanding that it could certainly cause an injury.

We never really thought a player would lick someone, right? But it happened. The history of "well, no one has done that previous, and no one would ever do that again" is dumb reasoning.

What I'm getting at here is that you simply can't cross-check someone in the head after they score a goal. For any reason. That's not an extreme view. Reilly could have gone over and facewashed him or chirped him or something and that would have been the end of it. What Leaf fans continuously fail to realize (and the Reilly supporters as well) is that this is NOT about Greig's "slapshot of disrespect." This is 100% about Reilly's cross-check to the head. We've seen other deliberate cross-checks to the head with intent to injure get suspended. Reilly got suspended as he should have. He is lucky he only got 5. It should have been more.

In the same breath as Leaf fans are saying, "Good, I bet Greigs doesn't do THAT again!!!", we can say with regard to the suspension, "Good, I bet Reilly doesn't do THAT again."

It was to the shoulder, it rode up.

And yeah, play stupid games, win stupid prizes


Again, if you think Morgan Rielly intended to hit him 100% in the head, we have nothing further to discuss.

Does. Not. Matter. One. Bit.

Everything you said is 100% irrelevant.

 

[Peasy]

well if Morgan was not such a coward he would have chosen to Fight Ridley Grieg, but alas, he cowers behind a weapon and attacks a person in the head with it cause he got his knickers in a knot as a result of his team being outworked by an opponent

cause its the respectfull thing to do...

what happened to holding your head high in defeat instead of being a sore loser that has anger management issues

Youre delusional if you think Greig would be willing to fight Rielly there.

 

[Byron Bitz]

I think Sens fans are extremely happy how this played out - beat a rival team, showed them up a bit, had a good laugh at the funny moment, saw the Leafs team and their fans lose their minds, and saw a rival team lose their best defenseman, deservedly, for 5 games. Ridley Greig is an absolute rockstar.

But none of those things matter because the Sens are once again out of the playoff race.

 

[Acallabeth]

Can anyone please explain why we do not see more slapshots taken at empty nets?

It iS uNIVerSALly DislIkeD!

The sport that prides itself on its players being so very tough sure has many fans who support assaults due to goals being scored 'not the right way'. Such hypocrisy

 

[Danarqhy]

I want to see slapshots on the Leafs empty net become an NHL tradition going forward. Maybe we can even incorporate a MPH tracker for them and have a competition for who can hit the hardest one like at the all stars game. I think it will make the league a lot more fun.