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Xspyrit

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Brannstrom was one of the top d-prospects available in that 2017 draft, and teams obviously knew all about his size issues. I mean he's always been listed at 5'10" and 185. The figuring was that he could use his skating and finesse to overcome the size concerns.

But landing in Ottawa when he did was probably a disaster for his development. The version of the Sens under D.J. Smith and Pierre Dorion were a defensive nightmare. And because he was the key piece coming back for one of the most popular Senators, Mark Stone, it only made the hole deeper.

He may finally be in the exact role he should be in with Vancouver. He's playing limited minutes with a big, stay-at-home d-man who can absorb punishment and get him the puck with time and space.

It's all promising so far......and really cost the Canucks nothing but a fourth round draft pick which they'd already acquired for Podkolzin.

This is spot on. Look at my avatar and what is written below. DJ Dorion hockey was torture for hockey fans who know about the game. There is a LOT of talent on Ottawa but the rebuild has been wasted so far under their utter incompetence. DJ is a nice guy too and there's probably nothing wrong with him as an assistant but he's not a head coach. Dorion is an amateur scout. They ended up in these positions because Melnyk. Unfortunately, they were leading a rebuild so people shouldn't act surprised if it took much longer than expected and it's not even guaranteed that it will ever work out.

Actually, the Canucks may have really lucked out that Brannstrom wasn't claimed on waivers by somebody.

The reason Ottawa didn't qualify him as an RFA is that he was due a raise on a base salary of $2m a season. But he signed in Colorado as a UFA for only $900,000 a season.

It's hard to believe when the Canucks acquired him and then put him on waivers, that some bottom-feeding team wouldn't have claimed him. After all, he's still only 25 and is still an RFA heading into next season. And $900,000 is barely $150,000 over the league minimum.

So if the Canucks want to qualify him and bring him back next season, it's only going to cost them a 15 percent raise on his base salary this year. Still a bargain.

I mean where are you going to find a depth d-man with two full NHL seasons under his belt in Ottawa for a number barely above the league minimum?

Yeah was very surprised too, knowing how big on advanced stats some teams are. Of course, most teams have a lot of players at the beginning of the season and several prospects knocking on the door but it also tells me that one of the major traits they look in a D-man is size

I wouldn't waste his ice time on that when he is much more productive in other situations.

Brannstrom is not particularly great on special teams but he is quite efficient at ES. If you look at ES production the last 2 years, only 99 D-men have had more ESP. Brett Pesce had 1 more ESP than him, for example. It means on average that only 3 D-men per team have outscored Brannstrom at ES, pretty decent for a 3rd pairing guy
 

Xspyrit

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Gotta give props to some people here and the group of Sens fans that kept banging the Brannstrom drum despite common wisdom being that he was nothing but a tweener type player.

The sample size is small, and even if he keeps this up for the entire regular season I would still need to see him in the playoffs, but so far he's given the backend a major boost with his ability to push the play forward both with his passing and skating.

I think the key to success for him will be to ride the fine line between being confident and aggressive but not doing too much. Don't be afraid to make a play but also be smart when it comes to picking his spots.

Thanks, I have been one of his biggest defendors. Hockey smarts and quickness are major in today's game, it is much more important than size IMO. I can understand how a team could be worried about a small D-man in the playoffs (see Girard) but you have to make them first. Brannstrom was very under-appreciated in Ottawa, despite him posting very good metrics the last 2 seasons. I mean, what more could you ask from a young 3rd pairing D-man? Of course, there was a huge bias associated to him, he was the main piece in return for a guy you would want to play his whole career for your team.

Enjoy Brannstrom, as long as the team use him wisely and with NHL level D-men with size, he'll be fine. In Ottawa, during his development he mostly played with Erik Gudbranson, Josh Brown, Nick Holden, Jacob Bernard-Docker, Travis Hamonic. Let that sink in.

The only 2 good players he has been paired with at times was Artem Zub and Thomas Chabot (he was on RD with him)

Brannstrom always looks good on the 3rd pair and with anyone, but you guys have a player who can play in the top 4 in case of injuries and look good doing it for 900k. That shit is invaluable.

Meanwhile we're playing Travis Hamonic on the top pair lol.

But enjoy Brannstrom, he's a high IQ player and and should only benefit in a high IQ team and system.

If he gets stronger or even if he learns how to handle contact a little better. I think he is a top 4 player.

And after people wonder why Ottawa rebuild is not working out... we have been pure idiots. I still give the benefit of the doubt to the new management/coaching but I need to see results. The number of dumb decisions we have made during this rebuild is flabbergasting

What a freaking trade. You know when you have Tochett "who is a extreme hardass" praising his game after the trade, you're doing something right. A project that seems to be paying off bigtime, I can't wait to see what Brannstrom turns into after Foote/Gonchar put more time into him. What a steal.

I called that years ago, that eventually a team would acquire Brannstrom and reap the benefits. He's the kind of quality depth you need to have if you want to have a good team.
 

VanJack

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Defense might be the hardest position to break into when it comes to regular employment in the NHL.

Center isn't easy either. But generally if a young guy is putting up some points, the coach will let him play through some of his defensive mistakes or lost draws on the faceoff.

But for d-men it's not uncommon for them to finally come into their own by age 25 or even later. So Brannstrom, who was the CORSI champ in last night's game, might finally be in a situation where his natural talent and skating ability will shine through.

Sounds to me like he's struggled with confidence over the years, which isn't too surprising. The situation in Ottawa was a black hole; and he probably had another crisis of confidence in the Colorado training camp with all the competition on the back end.

But so far, so good in Vancouver. He's exactly what this team needed as a depth defender.
 

VanJack

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Just about everybody is projecting the Canucks to be big-time buyers of a puck-moving d-man at some point this season.

But at the very least, Brannstrom might at least delay their search if he can continue to progress. Granted he's still playing a lot of 'sheltered minutes', starting a lot of shifts in the O-zone.

But given his obvious skill-set and high draft pedigree, I really hope the Canucks give him a legitimate shot, before they blowup some of their assets to acquire another puck mover who might only be here for the rest of the season.
 
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arttk

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hahaha I'm not even sweating. I could bet a house on this as it's going to be Dorion EASILY

What are Benning 10 worst moves?
Problem is not 10 worst moves, it’s that there are too f***ing many to count and it ranges from bad trades, contracts, off the ice, on the ice, PR, cap, farm.

Not anymore , my friend, not anymore...
Hold my hand please
 
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bandwagonesque

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hahaha I'm not even sweating. I could bet a house on this as it's going to be Dorion EASILY

What are Benning 10 worst moves?
I wasn't fond of the Gudbranson trade, I must say. It was poor value in my opinion.
 

VanJack

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Brannstrom might have had one of his best games in a Canuck uniform tonight in Anaheim. The thing is, the Ducks tried running him in his own zone, but he really doesn't back down despite giving up two or three inches and 20 pounds on most of the guys he battles with.

He's really coming into his own as a puck-mover however. When he gives and goes with tape-to-tape passes, it's really an added weapon. Might finally be in a position to justify his draft potential.
 

Emrasie

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Brannstrom might have had one of his best games in a Canuck uniform tonight in Anaheim. The thing is, the Ducks tried running him in his own zone, but he really doesn't back down despite giving up two or three inches and 20 pounds on most of the guys he battles with.

He's really coming into his own as a puck-mover however. When he gives and goes with tape-to-tape passes, it's really an added weapon. Might finally be in a position to justify his draft potential.
One thing is certain he is not soft despite his size and he will give you 100% more often than not. I'm just frustrated with his offense, i don't know if he can unlock his potential in this aspect. His time with Ottawa didn't help.
But for now he is a very capable 3rd pair guy.
 

VanJack

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One thing is certain he is not soft despite his size and he will give you 100% more often than not. I'm just frustrated with his offense, i don't know if he can unlock his potential in this aspect. His time with Ottawa didn't help.
But for now he is a very capable 3rd pair guy.
Every once and awhile you do see flashes of it......like when he joined the rush and laid a perfect pass right into Sherwood's wheelhouse, who then wired it home.

But I agree......I think his experiences in Ottawa may have 'wrung the offense out of him'. He spent too many years just trying to survive out there and stay out of D.J. Smith's doghouse.

So I'd like to see him try and use some of his natural offensive talent a bit more. But as a third pairing guy, that may not happen now.
 

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Still cant believe Allvin pulled this off.

It's a small victory but it's still impressive nonetheless.
 

Bitz and Bites

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Is the solution to our blue line actually a RD to play with Brannstrom and we bump Soucy and Myers down?
That’s worth a try, just need a cheap, steady righty to get through this season as Myers is looking like vintage Myers who needs easier minutes and Deharnais is pretty limited and should be a 6/7 guy on a deep team.
I think Brainstorm and Willander could be a good option for a second pairing as soon as next season as their skillsets should complement each other and both would have low cap hits which we need with the OEL buyout hitting its high point.
 
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krutovsdonut

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my take on brannstrom is still governed by watching pouliot, who had a good run here of about 25 games before the walls closed in on him. i want to root for him. he's a much much better player than pouliot. but he's still an undersized dman who can be targeted and pushed around defensively and i am not sure how long he can keep it together as teams start to key on that.

brannstrom is doing well in a structured defensive system with limited minutes and a large physical defence partner. he's being carefully coached and sheltered on match ups. he's also playing in a conference that does not know him that well.

and he's still getting in trouble regularly.

for now he is not good enough to outskate and outscore his size limitations and i am not sure he will be that kind of incredibly rare player. i think he will have to become physically strong enough to mostly hold his own defensively despite the size issue and he will have to mostly keep his game simple. think of a more talented stecher or biega.
 

credulous

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brannstrom looks good right now because it's in contrast to soucy, myers, forbort, desharnais, etc and he can actually move the puck but the answer to the canucks problems is to get someone defensively competent that can actually move the puck. it's not to play brannstrom. he's just a stopgap
 

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