Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[Cypruss]

Scheifele got 4 playoff games for a similar play. Curious to see if the league would hold a Leaf to the same standard.

Scheifele hit was not this bad, was during the play a split second after the Montreal player was putting the wrap around in the net with his head down. This was way way worse. Start at 8 games (equivalent to 4 playoff games) and add from there for malicious stick to the head 5 seconds after the play was over. Anything under 10 is really a joke, but the DOPS is often a joke.

 

[PromisedLand]

You'll have to tally it up for the bet anyways, but will likely back out like the last Leafs poster I had a bet with.

More to my previous post.

I just did a count. In the first 3 pages... 58 posts out of 75 posts are first time posters and not Leafs fans. Thats about 77% of teh posts in just eh first 3 pages.

Dude u gonna lost the bet lol

 

[dirtydanglez]

Scheifele hit was not this bad, was during the play a split second after the Montreal player was putting the wrap around in the net with his head down. This was way way worse. Start at 8 games (equivalent to 4 playoff games) and add from there for malicious stick to the head 5 seconds after the play was over. Anything under 10 is really a joke, but the DOPS is often a joke.

wait is this the jake evans hit? that was way worse than this.

 

[TooManyHumans]

Just because your feefees are hurt, doesn't mean you get to hurt someone. This is like preschool shit.

 

[Nostradumbass]

I ain't putting the work. Got other things to do.

You can put in the work and post it publicly with results. no DMs

Nah man, you made the bet -- you do the work.

More to my previous post.

I just did a count. In the first 3 pages... 58 posts out of 75 posts are first time posters and not Leafs fans. Thats about 77% of teh posts in just eh first 3 pages.

Dude u gonna lost the bet lol

How many were replying to Leafs posters, even if not quoting?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Just because your feefees are hurt, doesn't mean you get to hurt someone. This is like preschool shit.

almost as preschool as saying shit like "feefees" ...

 

[BCNate]

He will get 6-8 games for that. Bush league play that shouldn’t happen.

 

[WG]

I understand the Dale hunter comparison to an extent, but I think there were a couple factors that make them quite different:

1) Bettman was the new guy in town, and was probably extra sensitive to hockey's public image, and he wanted to make a statement. 70 year old bettman probably isn't as bold.

2) Dale Hunter had a well earned perception of being a guy who plays over the edge, and all that history is something reilly does not have.

It will be really interesting to see what they come up with because it does feel like uncharted waters.

Regardless of reilly's intentions, it's just a bad look because he went after an unsuspecting player after the play was already dead, and he hurt him.

The other difference, and probably the most compelling: in this case, one could argue the Greig brought it on himself, or should have known it was coming etc., and he might have at least seen Reilly coming. In the other case, Turgeon scored a goal, he celebrated 'properly' (i.e he wasn't taunting the Caps players or making any sort of spectacle) and Hunter chased him down and blindsided him.

If the NHL didn't throw the book at Hunter, then basically it's open season any time a guy scores a goal and does anything other than shrug and skate quietly to the bench.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

He will get 6-8 games for that. Bush league play that shouldn’t happen.

not even a pure cross check tbh so he should get 2 max IMO

 

[Master P]

Leaf fans right now

 

[stealth1]

Scheifele hit was not this bad, was during the play a split second after the Montreal player was putting the wrap around in the net with his head down. This was way way worse. Start at 8 games (equivalent to 4 playoff games) and add from there for malicious stick to the head 5 seconds after the play was over. Anything under 10 is really a joke, but the DOPS is often a joke.

They are only a joke due to the Old Boys club of the league. I remember when Shanahan was DOPS he started out with throwing the book at players. Than the league and GMs told him that you can't do that.

 

[Silky Johnson]

Not sure.

Also not sure why I signed up to be a die hard fan of a team that tortures me.

Fair enough.

 

[Petrus]

Scheifele hit was not this bad, was during the play a split second after the Montreal player was putting the wrap around in the net with his head down. This was way way worse. Start at 8 games (equivalent to 4 playoff games) and add from there for malicious stick to the head 5 seconds after the play was over. Anything under 10 is really a joke, but the DOPS is often a joke.

LOL. The injuries that Evan’s sustained says otherwise. Evan’s was on a stretcher and missed the entire series after including the series against Tampa.

Leaf fans right now

What are you on about?

 

[Ol' Jase]

not even a pure cross check tbh so he should get 2 max IMO

So then it’s a one-handed stick to the face?

Doesn’t change anything.

 

[NyQuil]

Scheifele hit was not this bad, was during the play a split second after the Montreal player was putting the wrap around in the net with his head down. This was way way worse. Start at 8 games (equivalent to 4 playoff games) and add from there for malicious stick to the head 5 seconds after the play was over. Anything under 10 is really a joke, but the DOPS is often a joke.

Yeah it was much worse.

 

[Paradise Circus]

Not even remotely comparable...it's really a dumb comparison

Thanks tips

 

[All Mod Cons]

I've never seen 31 fanbases be so absolutely offended by something that happened on the ice.

Poor Matt Grzelyck is like I just f***ing smashed someone in the junk and no ones cares.

 

[KevFu]

I'm not reading 126 pages to catch up, but my take is that:

You can't take a slap shot on a goalie after the whistle without getting jumped because it's a dangerous thing to risk the goalie getting hurt, the play isn't live and the goal wouldn't count.

There's a legitimate reason why that's part of the code.

Therefore, you can't be butthurt about a slapshot on no goalie, while the play is live, and the goal counts. Because that's the exact opposite of the situation that everyone agrees violates the code.

Your feelings of insecurity are not part of the code, protecting a goalie is. Being "shown up" by a windup? Don't give away the puck. Don't be trailing so you have to pull a goalie. Be a man and accept defeat with honor.

 

[NyQuil]

I've never seen 31 fanbases be so absolutely offended by something that happened on the ice.

Poor Matt Grzelyck is like I just f***ing smashed someone in the junk and no ones cares.

I think you’re mistaking frequency of posts with the magnitude of the outrage.

I think it’s a pretty funny incident.

Just like when Alfie pretended to throw his stick and Leaf Nation lost their collective minds.

 

[PowersMan68]

I've read hundreds of comments about Greig "hot-dogging" and his "F$#@ Y*@" insulting intentions towards the Leafs....but I see it differently.

In the dying seconds of a hard fought game on both sides; and with the Leafs pressing hard with a 6 on 5 in the Senators zone...and Greig is sprung loose with the puck going down the ice. I don't see him checking the clock as the adrenaline kicks in and he goes for the potential empty netter. Hometown crowd, adrenaline pumping, Battle of Ontario game, Rielly hot on his heels.. I think he may have considered that the clock was ticking down and he opted to make sure his shot would count and decided the fastest he could get the puck across the goal line was the best option? If he just taps it in at the end at low speed does the clock potentially wind down before the puck crosses the goal line? I don't think Grieg had any idea how much time was still on the clock, he just assumed he had seconds or less to make his play count.

In any event, Rielly completely over reacted. Rielly is paid millions to be a professional hockey player...so act like a man and don't overreact by using your stick as a weapon to an opponents head. Even minor league players know better and act better. Sure....square up and fight if you're that upset about it...but to use his stick in this dangerous manner, and then pick up his skirt and run off the ice immediately after..? Rielly obviously thought Grieg should answer the bell for the slapshot; why did he run off the ice like a coward and not answer the bell himself for the cross check to Greig?

Rielly may have doomed the Leafs playoff chances because of his childish tantrum. Six games.

 

[JianYang]

The other difference, and probably the most compelling: in this case, one could argue the Greig brought it on himself, or should have known it was coming etc., and he might have at least seen Reilly coming. In the other case, Turgeon scored a goal, he celebrated 'properly' (i.e he wasn't taunting the Caps players or making any sort of spectacle) and Hunter chased him down and blindsided him.

If the NHL didn't throw the book at Hunter, then basically it's open season any time a guy scores a goal and does anything other than shrug and skate quietly to the bench.

Well, there's no argument from me that grieg purposely raised the temperature. I just don't think that's justification for a guy to come at him high with his lumber in hand.

I don't want the perceived amount of hot dogging to enter into the conversation when punishing a guy because that becomes a slippery slope.

 

[All Mod Cons]

A fine for Grezlyck for smashing someone in the balls, because nothing bad has ever come from that.

The joys of being able to play in another market.

 

[MCR74]

I've never seen 31 fanbases be so absolutely offended by something that happened on the ice.

Poor Matt Grzelyck is like I just f***ing smashed someone in the junk and no ones cares.

Yeah but a nut punch ain't the same, doesn't cause as much damage.

 

[All Mod Cons]

A fine for Grezlyck for smashing someone in the balls, because nothing bad has ever come from that.

The joys of being able to play in ant

I think you’re mistaking frequency of posts with the magnitude of the outrage.

I think it’s a pretty funny incident.

Just like when Alfie pretended to throw his stick and Leaf Nation lost their collective minds.

We've had people wanting criminal charges laid against Rielly. Sens fans and Habs fans eh?

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

This is the first time the Battle of Ontario has been relevant since 2004 and people are whining and complaining. I was thoroughly entertained. This has drawn considerable controversy on social media fuelled by useless idiots who think they can gatekeep hockey culture. It will have an inverse effect. Controversy draws cash. I am looking forward to the next Battle of Ontario!