Captain Crunch
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So we have three players making more than $1. Trying to win the cup is not "throwing away" draft picks, just because you're not the one team that ends up winning. It's what top tier teams do.
2. While we traded some draft picks, we also got some back, and avoided trading all of our top prospects (which many seem to ignore, as they focus so heavily on picks).
3. We had 5 drafts under Dubas, which is a default of 35 draft picks, and we ended up with 35 draft picks under Dubas. Where those picks were slotted made drafting quality more difficult, but Dubas was able to do it, and add on additional young pieces through other avenues - overseas, college, free agency, etc. to supplement. We drastically improved our prospect pool under Dubas, and we now have a number of prospects in or close to the NHL.
4. There is a lag time on when you draft a prospect and when they provide quality NHL depth. The majority of drafted prospects that would have helped us during Dubas' tenure would have been coming from pre-Dubas drafting, when we were rebuilding and on the rise. Dubas's drafting will primarily impact last year (where we had Knies excelling in the playoffs, Robertson and Holmberg looking good in the regular season, and a bunch of injury fill-ins that held their own) and the next few years.
You can be upset at or concerned about the futures that were moved if you want, but recognize that those deals improved our depth during this past half decade, not hurt it.
It doesn't matter how much they've made. It doesn't change that they deserve to be treated like everybody else. These are all millionaires, but I'd rather the money go to the millionaires that most help the team and that most generate and earn that money.
Not only is that not true, but they're already leaving millions on the table. Signing a "market value" contract as a top tier player in this league is inherently leaving millions on the table. And yet some fans will never be satisfied. Not exercising their true earning potential, and accepting multi-million dollar underpayments relative to their impact that are consistent with their peers is not enough. They need to give up million on top of that? If anybody is greedy, it's the fans, not the players.
Our players are totally committed to winning. You're not going to get any better by selling off our top tier core and going back into the lottery. You'll just waste a decade and then, if you're lucky, get a lesser core that you'll think the same things about when they don't immediately win or take unprecedented underpayment contracts.
Those “deals” have helped us win one measly playoff round in the 5 years we’ve had Tavares. It’s not like we’ve gone on any runs in the playoffs, quite the opposite. And how many of those “deals” are still with the team? Meanwhile, take a look at how many picke we have over the next 3 years!!! Better hope Tre, unlike Dubas, can find some hidden gems in this time. smh1. Trying to win the cup is not "throwing away" draft picks, just because you're not the one team that ends up winning. It's what top tier teams do.
2. While we traded some draft picks, we also got some back, and avoided trading all of our top prospects (which many seem to ignore, as they focus so heavily on picks).
3. We had 5 drafts under Dubas, which is a default of 35 draft picks, and we ended up with 35 draft picks under Dubas. Where those picks were slotted made drafting quality more difficult, but Dubas was able to do it, and add on additional young pieces through other avenues - overseas, college, free agency, etc. to supplement. We drastically improved our prospect pool under Dubas, and we now have a number of prospects in or close to the NHL.
4. There is a lag time on when you draft a prospect and when they provide quality NHL depth. The majority of drafted prospects that would have helped us during Dubas' tenure would have been coming from pre-Dubas drafting, when we were rebuilding and on the rise. Dubas's drafting will primarily impact last year (where we had Knies excelling in the playoffs, Robertson and Holmberg looking good in the regular season, and a bunch of injury fill-ins that held their own) and the next few years.
You can be upset at or concerned about the futures that were moved if you want, but recognize that those deals improved our depth during this past half decade, not hurt it.
It doesn't matter how much they've made. It doesn't change that they deserve to be treated like everybody else. These are all millionaires, but I'd rather the money go to the millionaires that most help the team and that most generate and earn that money.
Not only is that not true, but they're already leaving millions on the table. Signing a "market value" contract as a top tier player in this league is inherently leaving millions on the table. And yet some fans will never be satisfied. Not exercising their true earning potential, and accepting multi-million dollar underpayments relative to their impact that are consistent with their peers is not enough. They need to give up million on top of that? If anybody is greedy, it's the fans, not the players.
Our players are totally committed to winning. You're not going to get any better by selling off our top tier core and going back into the lottery. You'll just waste a decade and then, if you're lucky, get a lesser core that you'll think the same things about when they don't immediately win or take unprecedented underpayment contracts.
So if these prima donnas “deserve” what they’ve earned so far, I’m wondering why other teams haven’t done the same with their players? Simple, it’s because we overpaid them on their last contracts, not to mention the term and NTCs they got.
For sure they seem to be committed to two things, get as much as you can (deserve, lol) and for the term that’s best for you, (just like every player on all the other teams do, hahaha)!