Mitch Marner (Trade or Keep)?

[ACC1224]

We'll never now, no one else is waiting for SC this long.

Why would that be a requirement?

 

[EGL22]

If Matthews signs by July 1 then keep Marner and Willie and hope they can somehow get it done in the next 3-5 years,my expected contract lengths.

If Matthews does not sign then trade all 3 right now and use the treasure chest of prospects and picks to substantially shorten the next rebuild.

 

[Antropovsky]

If Matthews signs by July 1 then keep Marner and Willie and hope they can somehow get it done in the next 3-5 years,my expected contract lengths.

If Matthews does not sign then trade all 3 right now and use the treasure chest of prospects and picks to substantially shorten the next rebuild.

How do leafs afford William at 9, Matthews at 12.5 (min), Marner at 11 and Tavares at 11? 41.5 million on 4 players?

 

[ToneDog]

How do leafs afford William at 9, Matthews at 12.5 (min), Marner at 11 and Tavares at 11? 41.5 million on 4 players?

Kyper saying Willie going to command $10m. LOL.

 

[Antropovsky]

As Leaf fans I know we're not that lucky.
We can look forward to months of this brain dead 'Paul' garbage.

Except we had to sit through the season thread of reading about how Marner was Gretzky? Anytime And anyone mentioned playoffs In that thread.. We would get mocking responses such as "lol playoffs!".... Or "just enjoy what he's doing in the season!".......now we sat through his terrible postseason for the 6th consecutive year and those same posters are now saying "shut this thread down until the season starts!"

Lol everyone it's pretty clear, to some posters.... The rule is "leave Marner alone". Thinking it's Paul and his brother though considering it's mainly two posters with this opinion.

Hint hint one is you.

 

[Byron Bitz]

How do leafs afford William at 9, Matthews at 12.5 (min), Marner at 11 and Tavares at 11? 41.5 million on 4 players?

They would only all be making that much for one year then Tavares comes off the books and he either signs a hometown discount or we let him walk. It’s gonna be a one year cap crunch where we will have to play some rookies and bargain bin UFAs. Thankfully Knies will still be on his ELC.

Kyper saying Willie going to command $10m. LOL.

I think we can get Willie for 8.5 x 8

 

[Antropovsky]

Still shocked at how royally bent over Dubas was in the Marner deal. All that bonus money, 11 million cap hit, 6 year deal AND a nmc! Yikes.

I'm concerned to see Marners play once his NMC kicks in!

 

[ToneDog]

Still shocked at how royally bent over Dubas was in the Marner deal. All that bonus money, 11 million cap hit, 6 year deal AND a nmc! Yikes.

I'm concerned to see Marners play once his NMC kicks in!

He'll be motivated to get his 100 points and then shit the bed in the playoffs.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Still shocked at how royally bent over Dubas was in the Marner deal. All that bonus money, 11 million cap hit, 6 year deal AND a nmc! Yikes.

I'm concerned to see Marners play once his NMC kicks in!

It's the "he cares deeply" deal

Seriously talented player but the devotion to him by some, and with Dubas for that matter is just odd.

 

[francis246]

All of them.

Exactly, there are fan bases who have never been to a finals or even won a cup and they are still loyal as well. That in a nutshell is fandom. Through thick and thin you’re there lol.

 

[Aashir]

Kyper saying Willie going to command $10m. LOL.

I’ll pack his stuff for him then

8-8.5 is max.

He’s not any better than forsberg, fiala

Marginally better than bratt

 

[Trapper]

They would only all be making that much for one year then Tavares comes off the books and he either signs a hometown discount or we let him walk. It’s gonna be a one year cap crunch where we will have to play some rookies and bargain bin UFAs. Thankfully Knies will still be on his ELC.


I think we can get Willie for 8.5 x 8

If Matthews/Marner get 13 something, why should Nylander take almost 5 million less?

 

[ToneDog]

Exactly, there are fan bases who have never been to a finals or even won a cup and they are still loyal as well. That in a nutshell is fandom. Through thick and thin you’re there lol.

No doubt but hardly "all of them" as was suggested in the post you responded to.

 

[the Mighty Oak]

If Matthews/Marner get 13 something, why should Nylander take almost 5 million less?

Willie just put up the same numbers as Matthews this year. If Matthews goes for 13/14 per. it's gonna be hard not to give willly 10.

 

[ToneDog]

If Matthews/Marner get 13 something, why should Nylander take almost 5 million less?

Why would Acciari take less than Jarnkrok? Why would Hyman take less than what the Oilers offered? Why would Kampf and ROR take less than market value ? Why would Schenn ask for less than $2m? Why would Sammy not try to cash in? It's not like any of these 3 can say, get on my back boys.

Willie just put up the same numbers as Matthews this year. If Matthews goes for 13/14 per. it's gonna be hard not to give willly 10.

So trade him already. Carolina would be a great landing place for a 40 goal man. Necas or Jarvis and Pesche please.

 

[Trapper]

Willie just put up the same numbers as Matthews this year. If Matthews goes for 13/14 per. it's gonna be hard not to give willly 10.

I see Nylander between 9.5 and 10.5.
Probably 10 minimum.

 

[ShaneFalco]

I see Nylander between 9.5 and 10.5.
Probably 10 minimum.

So I've been told you never trade "elite" talent so let's pay everyone more for failure

 

[ToneDog]

I see Nylander between 9.5 and 10.5.
Probably 10 minimum.

In what world is Pasta (62g 115 points) only worth 1.25m more than Willie (40g 87 points)? Trade Willie and let somebody else pay to watch him float for a quarter of the season.

 

[ACC1224]

Exactly, there are fan bases who have never been to a finals or even won a cup and they are still loyal as well. That in a nutshell is fandom. Through thick and thin you’re there lol.

Yep, no one ever provides examples or explains why the fans can have such an impact on winning or losing.
All they know is they're sure Leaf fans are the only ones who keep following.

 

[Trapper]

In what world is Pasta (62g 115 points) only worth 1.25m more than Willie (40g 87 points)? Trade Willie and let somebody else pay to watch him float for a quarter of the season.

You know in what world.
The internal cap structure of the Leafs.

I agree. Both Nylander and Marner should be traded. Have Matthews at 12 or 13, replace Marner for a 7 million forward, you have Rielly at 7 million and get a package for Nylander.
Then build a harder nosed team around.

Or pay the same guys more and hope for a different result. The Leafs choose this option.

 

[the Mighty Oak]

In what world is Pasta (62g 115 points) only worth 1.25m more than Willie (40g 87 points)? Trade Willie and let somebody else pay to watch him float for a quarter of the season.

Problem here is Matthews is setting the bar. and everyone is basing. their contracts off of his.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Problem here is Matthews is setting the bar. and everyone is basing. their contracts off of his.

And problem - Mitch wants to be paid like him

 

[Byron Bitz]

Still shocked at how royally bent over Dubas was in the Marner deal. All that bonus money, 11 million cap hit, 6 year deal AND a nmc! Yikes.

If Matthews/Marner get 13 something, why should Nylander take almost 5 million less?

I never said Marner was getting 13 something. Matthews deserves significantly more than Willie. We’re talking about the best goal scorer of his generation.

 

[Gallagbi]

True, but for a guy who signed with his hometown team (supposedly at a discount) and wanted an NMC, in his declining years, I think it carries more weight than the usual platitudes.

Feels like the comment doesnt hold any weight, but the situation leads to his move being unlikely

 

[Trapper]

I never said Marner was getting 13 something. Matthews deserves significantly more than Willie. We’re talking about the best goal scorer of his generation.

So based on where we are now in time, last years performance and a contract yet to come, how many goals would you expect from Matthews/year and then Nylander and finally Marner?