There was nothing wrong with his negotiation, pretty standard stuff.
Now, in my opinion.if Marner.is surrounded by four quality lines.and a decent set of defensemen and the different style of team play on the ice.He will have the playoff success… The system that Keefe used and what i believe was “dubas vision” of what wins in the nhl that they played the last five years was a complete failure come playoffs and they tried it for five years straight recycling.the 3rd and 4th line and defencemen and he had five off seasons and five trade deadlines… I find it hard to believe that Marner didn't give 150% effort during the playoffs… I feel bad roster.management (dubas) and coaching.is hurting him come playoffs.
Tage or Tkachuk for Marner would highway robbery lol. Both suit the team better than Marner it its current make up.
Therein lies the problem. Wants every crumb off the table but needs FOUR quality lines and a decent SET of defensemen. He wanted the money, got the money and has proven he is not an alpha dog. The p***y should have taken less money so they can surround him with players that are willing to do what he is not or cannot do.
I don't think so. I believe Florida's. roster and team play just shut the leafs down. He did have 14 points in 11 games.
That's all Dubis's fault. He is the one that built the team. paid the players and had the "vision.'
Most of his points came from the first two games of the Tampa series.
Hard to build a successful playoff team when you start with a flawed vision. Pisses me off because many of us saw it from a mile away and they just kept pushing it down our throats.
Its a little bizarre to me the way the conversation has been going especially in the media....Well, its just Matthews turn to be the highest paid player and of course Marner is going to get a raise. What in the actual F**k.?
I would say he put a lot of pressure on himself while negotiating his last deal...it turned people off just like Matthews maybe asking for 15 milly...its a turn off. He doesnt exactly do himself any favors when in front of a mic either. Letter to the fans was pure cringe. After losing in playoffs he never takes responsibility, is actually smug about it and says things like we dont care what you guys think, I dont need to do anything different, we had our chances, never showing that he understands what needs to be done to get better and we all know in his next contract he will try to bend the leafs over again. Dont know him personally or what he is like away from the rink on his days off but as a fan his play can be electric and impressive but his personality or what he shows of it seems very immature which when the going gets tough shines through in his play as well. Men against boys is what I see when judging our top guys to champion level teams top guys.
People put too much weight into what the "Insiders' put out there for attention.
My opinions were not formed buy the media insiders...couldnt give 2 craps what they say...Ive got my own set of eyes and ears to form my own thoughts on the matter. These guys rub me the wrong way and rub a lot of people the wrong way. Theres validity to our thoughts (becasue we have them) whether you think they are or not. If you feel differently thats ok too. Im not saying your wrong, I just have a different view on the matter.
The poster people refer to as "Paul" is an over the top Marner advocate who is either invested emotionally or financially with him, given his outrageous takes.
I am speaking in general and not a particular Leafs. We do often pay a bit more attention to any medias even we all know deep inside he or she is just crap but news is news. While at the same time when it comes to Leafs players, we all pretty much invested more emotionally than a lot of Leafs on the team. And when Leafs overpaid players we wonder why that is the case…. Personally, I think Leafs overpaid the top 4, of course we can justify why individually, such as JT was a UFA, Willie’s contract looks great now, AM’s term is in question but if it is 8 yrs with the same AVV, it is fine, or MM broke out in his contract year…all the justifications are valid as even with JT at the time of signing, none of them are overpaid more than 1.5mil. But if we all them together, that’s about 5.5mil in cap space and that’s a lot.
Seven playoffs is not a large enough sample size. Maybe it will take a few more. God knows if we trade him, he will grow a pair of balls and surely win a Cup like Kadri, Bozak, Kessel, and Schenn.
Well then you'll be disrespecting Mitch who thinks he should make as much as AM.
They both have produced points at the same rate pretty much except Austin is a goal scorer and Marner does play more minutes, I assume because of his penalty killing. So it's a little hard to tell Marner that Matthews is worth 3 million. dollars more a year than him. This is a tough situation the leaf's are in because the more Matthews wants, the more Mariner will want. As long as the leaf's keep Matthews on this team and Marner. Mitch is gonna get rich off matthews contracts
