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Mitch Marner (Trade or Keep)?

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Trade or Keep Marner?

  • Trade Marner

    Votes: 420 67.5%

  • Keep Marner

    Votes: 183 29.4%

  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 19 3.1%
  • Total voters
    622
I'm not convinced Treliving was brought on board to make huge trades. I always felt Dubas was doing what he wanted to do, you could tell from his pressers that he really believed in his core. But at the same time, I think Shanahan is a real problem. You're not a real GM when you're answering to Shanahan. I really don't know that Tre can just go out and trade Marner or Mattews. You'd like to think so, but very doubtful.

For me, Marner for Eichel was the biggest missed opportunity. Eichel would be a great compliment to Matthews. Eichel: better skater, more of a playmaker. Matthews: better scorer, better shot, plays better defense. Would be a hell of a 1, 2 punch from center ice. Then, all you would need is get rid of Tavares somehow.
 
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Yo @Notsince67 you said I had nothing to back up my claim that Marner was horrible in game 3. I guess you missed my response so here it is again:

Gary Nylund said:
Marner was unbelievably bad that game, I wouldn't have thought it was even possible for regular season wonder boy to play so badly with the season on the line had I not seen it with my own eyes. He was abysmal, that's not an opinion, it's a fact that not one single person has disputed, except you of course.

You want something to back it up, here you go. Game 3 against Florida, expected goals %, individual players 5on5. Read'em and weep.

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With the season on the line, Marner put up a historically putrid performance. Keep denying this simple fact if you like, by doing so you're only destroying any sliver of credibility you have left.
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Mess said:
Mitch Marner to Arizona for ...

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Former 1st round pick #7 overall that played with Austin Matthews at US National Development program ..

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Keller finished #21 overall (just behind Nylander) and score +7 more goals but 13 less points then Mitch, and would likely see a nice points increase playing alongside Matthews.

Arizona got Keller re-signed for 8 years coming out of his ELC and has 5 more years at $7.150 mil AAV remaining.

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Leafs could pull a blockbuster deal similar to the Matthew Tkachuk deal (which Treliving pulled off) that sends multiple players each way built around Marner for Keller.
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Marner and his cap hit needs to be traded like yesterday!!!

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Trapper said:
Mitch Marner (10.9) + Matt Murray (4.6)
For
Clayton Keller (7.1)
Savings 8.4 cap.
Do it before July 1st,
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Zona would have to start a go-fund-me to raise $7+m to pay Mitch's bonus on July 1st. I'd rather move him to one of the coldest NHL cities, Winnipeg for Connor+ or Minnesota for Boldy+.
 
Take a look. 72 percent support trading Marner. Players like marner dont win you cups. Reg season phenom then vanishes.
 
Really just surprised he hasn't been traded yet. Lets go Treliving! We need to fix our Dcore
 
Stephen said:
If Marner's still hell bent on the Matthews comparisons and he's still here, that would represent an untenable cap situation.
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Give him the Stamkos deal.
Put an offer on the table and tell him to shop himself and if he gets a deal he likes better take.
Maybe he does like Stamkos and shows loyalty.
 
No way Phoenix would trade Keller who has 5 years left at 7.25 million for Marner who has two years left at 11 million (even if real money is close). Keller may have the best contract in the league. I'd send Bostons first plus Marner for Keller.... But even I don't think that gets it done. The cap savings on Keller alone over then next 5 seasons is incredible value.
 
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socko said:
I'm not convinced Treliving was brought on board to make huge trades. I always felt Dubas was doing what he wanted to do, you could tell from his pressers that he really believed in his core. But at the same time, I think Shanahan is a real problem. You're not a real GM when you're answering to Shanahan. I really don't know that Tre can just go out and trade Marner or Mattews. You'd like to think so, but very doubtful.

For me, Marner for Eichel was the biggest missed opportunity. Eichel would be a great compliment to Matthews. Eichel: better skater, more of a playmaker. Matthews: better scorer, better shot, plays better defense. Would be a hell of a 1, 2 punch from center ice. Then, all you would need is get rid of Tavares somehow.
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Agreed on the MM for Eichel . AM and him would have been something great!
 
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socko said:
I'm not convinced Treliving was brought on board to make huge trades. I always felt Dubas was doing what he wanted to do, you could tell from his pressers that he really believed in his core. But at the same time, I think Shanahan is a real problem. You're not a real GM when you're answering to Shanahan. I really don't know that Tre can just go out and trade Marner or Mattews. You'd like to think so, but very doubtful.

For me, Marner for Eichel was the biggest missed opportunity. Eichel would be a great compliment to Matthews. Eichel: better skater, more of a playmaker. Matthews: better scorer, better shot, plays better defense. Would be a hell of a 1, 2 punch from center ice. Then, all you would need is get rid of Tavares somehow.
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Marner fanboys were against it. They still would not do Marner for Tage Thompson who is on a sweet deal. Hell I bet they wouldn't do Marner for McDavid cause Marner is better defensively.

Marner to the city with the best right wings in North America kind of makes sense. Be happy to take Owen Auston Power. LOL.
 
Antropovsky said:
I said it often when Eichel was available...but was told lol Marners better.
I said Tkachuk for Marner when Tkachuk was available and was told lol Marners better
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I know what you mean, when I suggested MM for Eichel would be a good hockey trade for both teams it was not received well and booed .
 
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The "Marner appreciation thread" has suspiciously gone dormant, as Marner praise typically does in the offseason. Yet we can expect the same posters will start it up again next season. It's fun looking back through it. Here's one, where a poster suggested his core looks stronger and he will be able to use that to his advantage come playoffs.

DarkKnight said:
The best is how they think they’re making points but really just looking more and more ridiculous. Put the shovel down.

One thing people are sleeping on about Marner this year, he’s harder on the puck, his core is stronger, he can lean into people more with his legs. Reminds me of how Kadri matured. Not the same player, but both went down easily early on but got sturdier as they aged, bodes well for Mitch this playoffs.
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One thing we can say with certainty... Is nobody was sleeping on it. Playoff Marner is definitely not stronger on the puck, as he was falling over the ice with a light breeze.
 
Antropovsky said:
The "Marner appreciation thread" has suspiciously gone dormant, as Marner praise typically does in the offseason. Yet we can expect the same posters will start it up again next season. It's fun looking back through it. Here's one, where a poster suggested his core looks stronger and he will be able to use that to his advantage come playoffs.
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Is it suspicious? Its the offseason
 
Burkeocet said:
Wish he wasn’t so hung up on being as rich as possible and cared more about winning..

He’d be a lot more effective with a power forward on his line to open up space for him. I was so mad when the leafs didn’t get Evander Kane for free - his game would have strongly complimented this soft top 6 that can’t and won’t go to the dirty areas to win a playoff game. A guy like that on Marner’s line would give him so much more room to play his
PromisedLand said:
Should we Trade or Keep Marner?

EDIT: His NMC kicks in July 1st, 2023

Scenarios:
- We keep Marner then:
A) he either walks as UFA in 2 years
B) he wants anywhere from 12 to 14 AAV for 8 years (currently at approx. 11 AAV for 6 years)

Given his play in the playoffs especially in elimination games he just doesn't have the next gear and even worse he makes the worse plays possible by giving away pucks and not fighting for the pucks. If there is no free ice mitch marner is not useful.
Do we really want to commit to that kind of AAV to this kind of player?

OR

- trade Marner get what we can for him and move on. retool/rebuild.
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Normally you keep a guy like Marner. But we know how these guys roll in negotiations. Team above player.
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Gary Nylund said:
Yo @Notsince67 you said I had nothing to back up my claim that Marner was horrible in game 3. I guess you missed my response so here it is again:
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I didn't. Your reading comprehension is a bit problematic. I gave context and you provide 1 game. Like I said...8 goals for 5x5 and 1 ga. Highest differential on the team that series. Also the highest xg%.
You keep trying to prove he is garbage until you suck up mid next season next year to sing his praises when the crowd shifts like you always do. You have zero credibility.
 
Notsince67 said:
I didn't. Your reading comprehension is a bit problematic. I gave context and you provide 1 game. Like I said...8 goals for 5x5 and 1 ga. Highest differential on the team that series. Also the highest xg%.
You keep trying to prove he is garbage until you suck up mid next season next year to sing his praises when the crowd shifts like you always do. You have zero credibility.
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What's the time frame you are referencing for that 8 Gf 1 GA 5on5 stat?
 
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