Player Discussion Mitch Marner - On Hiatus

[57 Years No Cup]

Is he wearing a period bracelet?

 

[Kazparov]

I would argue that Marner had poor season because in previous regular seasons he drove the lines he was in and really elevated the games of those around him.

I would argue he got married got happy and lost what fire he had to compete

 

[The Masters]

I worry he's not the man for it, but time will tell

i expect he gone in a year

 

[GoonieFace]

I'm not the one claiming I played pro and using it as a reason why people need to trust my opinion and ignore others.

Do you want proof I grew up playing AAA in the GTA?

I couldn’t care less. And pretty much anyone on here can claim anything, like I’m handsome, look at my picture

 

[ToneDog]

I don't think you need to play extremely high levels of hockey to know anything about it, but since you are bringing it up, what is the highest level you played? Mine is only AAA with/against a lot of current NHLers.

I'd be curious to know how long ago you played and what level. It's got to be pro (a top 10 league hopefully) and within the last 10 years the way you are speaking.

I suggest you ask those NHLers.

 

[Gabriel426]

At this point I don’t think Marner even wants to come back. It seems like it’s Ferris feeding information to the media to keep Marner’s value high. I think if we were to catch Marner in a candid moment he would say he wants out.

But they have to play this song and dance, Marner himself probably doesn’t want it out there that he wants out. So they’ve got to make it seem like Toronto is driving the bus on this.

That’s my line of thinking all along.

If I am him and his camp, I will go to a non playoff team to boast up points in the regular season and the extension will be ready by the All Star Break.

 

[Racer88]

I would argue he got married got happy and lost what fire he had to compete

Don’t forget he also got rich in that time as well and the playoffs don’t pay so why would he try

 

[Antropovsky]

I would argue he got married got happy and lost what fire he had to compete

Marner got married 6 years ago? His dad's fire is probably the only reason he's playing. He doesn't seem to care too much about losing really. I think he looks forward to having the summer off. He has possibly the least amount of fire in his game I've ever seen.

 

[IPS]

Marner got married 6 years ago? His dad's fire is probably the only reason he's playing. He doesn't seem to care too much about losing really. I think he looks forward to having the summer off. He has possibly the least amount of fire in his game I've ever seen.

Looks or plays like he wants the summer off? His little tantrums on the bench and crying in the penalty box certainly has the optics covered.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Looks or plays like he wants the summer off? His little tantrums on the bench and crying in the penalty box certainly has the optics covered.

 

[Antropovsky]

Looks or plays like he wants the summer off? His little tantrums on the bench and crying in the penalty box certainly has the optics covered.

He only throws tantrums or cries when he's being blamed for something. He doesn't get emotional in the game. He doesn't go into scrums, he doesn't smash his stick over a post when he gives the puck away and it ends up in the Leafs net. He never yells expletives at the opponent, he doesnt even send a dirty look at them...Nope, hes 100% content watching his teammates battle in a scrum 4vs6 in the Bruins crease from 40' away standing near a ref.. He only shows emotion when people criticize him or he knows he will be criticized.

 

[Racer88]

He only throws tantrums or cries when he's being blamed for something. He doesn't get emotional in the game. He doesn't go into scrums, he doesn't smash his stick over a post when he gives the puck away and it ends up in the Leafs net. He never yells expletives at the opponent, he doesnt even send a dirty look at them...Nope, only shows emotion when people criticize him or he knows he will be criticized.

That’s true, just watch his post game/season pressers

 

[Antropovsky]

That’s true, just watch his post game/season pressers

Yep... seems realllllly upset. You'd think game 15 just ended by this interview. He seemed a little more upset last playoffs, hmm maybe that was because his NMC hadn't kicked in yet?

Gotta love him saying once again that he thought they had alot of chances the last couple games..."that just didn't fall" lol.

 

[IPS]

He only throws tantrums or cries when he's being blamed for something. He doesn't get emotional in the game. He doesn't go into scrums, he doesn't smash his stick over a post when he gives the puck away and it ends up in the Leafs net. He never yells expletives at the opponent, he doesnt even send a dirty look at them...Nope, hes 100% content watching his teammates battle in a scrum 4vs6 in the Bruins crease from 40' away standing near a ref.. He only shows emotion when people criticize him or he knows he will be criticized.

Sums it up pretty well

 

[notDatsyuk]

Can you point out where I said it was a small sample size?

I'm asking how much more difficult those games are and the exact measurement.

You're right - complaining about people using 3 games instead of 7 isn't complaining about a small sample size.

Yeah.

 

[Hellcat]

There is a difference....

M. Tkachuk wanted out of Calgary; Tre didn't want to trade Tkachuk or let Gudreau walk as UFA

We want Marner to be traded to improve the team or worst case scenario walk as a UFA

The 90 points crap needs to die already. We need WINS and PLAYERS who produce when IT MATTERS! Having 4 forwards next year at 11+ AAV is absolutely STUPID. This is Dubas BULLSHIT again trying to f***ing do that nobody in the league is doing because of some galaxy braining shit

There are in total 32 teams in the league of which 16 make the playoffs and of which 8 team go on to play 2nd round and beyond. Not all of require "Marner" to be successful.

This player worship needs to end. TEAM matters more than player. LOGO on the front matters more than name on the back. Period!

I get where you are going but a 90 points player is important, if you dont replace those 90 points through goal suppression or through actual points scored, it means you are not a better team, the cap savings would be meaningless if your team is worse in the end.

The 4 players above $10 mil cap hit is only a thing if your scouting departments and executive staff don't find value contracts, if you look at the Cup winning teams you will find players who over perform their contracts and have an impact on winning the cup, the Leafs have yet to have that value contract impact player over perform their contracts plus the stars need to be stars, not some of them but all of the stars need to shine. The more you have tied up in fewer players the better your team needs to be in developing their own cheap contracts or finding UFA's, the Leafs have not done a good job of that. McMann and Benoit are two good value contracts. I think Robertson could be one of those next year. We need value contracts like Hyman and Reinhart.

Your preaching to the choir when you say team is more important than individual, I've coach for 40ish years, I preach that with every team that I've coached.

BTW if fans dont like Marner's soft game, we should trade Cowan now, he's a clone of Marner.

 

[Hellcat]

He only throws tantrums or cries when he's being blamed for something. He doesn't get emotional in the game. He doesn't go into scrums, he doesn't smash his stick over a post when he gives the puck away and it ends up in the Leafs net. He never yells expletives at the opponent, he doesnt even send a dirty look at them...Nope, hes 100% content watching his teammates battle in a scrum 4vs6 in the Bruins crease from 40' away standing near a ref.. He only shows emotion when people criticize him or he knows he will be criticized.

When he came back from injury, he had a really odd presser where he was overly aggressive with the media, he kinda played to "spoiled brat" moniker. This too shall pass, I remember a couple of years ago when Nylander was a cancer in the locker room, needs to go, soft, unengaged ... now he's a playoff hero .. the kind of guy we need more of... Marner is the the pariah right now, opinions.

After we paid him 6.9 for 6 years to out perform he's 11 mil teammates in the playoffs being regulated to secondary lines

Sorry I dont follow , who did we pay 6.9 and which 11 mil players are being regulated to secondary lines?

 

[Budz]

IF we resign Marner (which I would not like), it would change the FA priorities for me. Expectations of a cup next year tank. The year will be a wait to properly reset when JT’s $ come off the cap.

They will need to prioritize the Centre position. I think Lindholm could be the kind of player Nylander would play well with.

I would also try to play the kids a lot. Minten, Cowan and Greb.

Sign
Lindholm
One of Pesce or Skjei.

Then next year spend the rest on another quality d man or two.

 

[Optimist]

Mitch Marner throws out first pitch at Border Cats game

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[francis246]

Mitch Marner throws out first pitch at Border Cats game

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He seems like a genuinely happy and good guy. I think Marner should fire Darren Ferris lol, start fresh and lose any and all public connection to Ferris/Dad/Dreger.

 

[Kazparov]

Yep... seems realllllly upset. You'd think game 15 just ended by this interview. He seemed a little more upset last playoffs, hmm maybe that was because his NMC hadn't kicked in yet?

Gotta love him saying once again that he thought they had alot of chances the last couple games..."that just didn't fall" lol.

Ha no way I'm going to trigger myself by watching that

 

[Kazparov]

Expectations of a cup next year tank.

I think everyone needs to adjust their expectations. I honestly didn't think they had 'it' this year and I wasn't super upset or surprised they lost in the first round this year. Simply didn't expect them to put a meaningful run in.

With or without MM next year I don't see how they can retool quickly enough to make it so next year is a contending year either. Too many holes at all levels.

Trading MM however puts them farther ahead in reinventing the team and the culture

 

[BrannigansLaw]

He seems like a genuinely happy and good guy. I think Marner should fire Darren Ferris lol, start fresh and lose any and all public connection to Ferris/Dad/Dreger.

He should lose any and all connections to this franchise too while he’s at.

 

[francis246]

He should lose any and all connections to this franchise too while he’s at.

Chill out man, give it a f***ing rest for a day. Not everyday has to be this obsession like nonsense.

If he gets moved, he gets moved. No one on these boards has control over that. I don’t think you and the few other posters understand how exhausting you guys are. It’s non-stop, we could say the sky is blue, “Marner shouldn’t look at the sky, looking at the sky is for those with big balls”

 

[thewave]

Marner got married 6 years ago? His dad's fire is probably the only reason he's playing. He doesn't seem to care too much about losing really. I think he looks forward to having the summer off. He has possibly the least amount of fire in his game I've ever seen.

Fire!? This brat is a water sprinkler in the playoffs. If you don't believe me look into his crying eyes man.