Player Discussion Mitch Marner - On Hiatus

[Larcos_Unal]

Why the focus on Marner and not the other clowns?

Mitch has been the worst of the clowns when it comes to playoff hockey.

 

[rumman]

Why the focus on Marner and not the other clowns?

Got to start somewhere, hope he’s just the beginning of fixing the cap and getting rid of overpriced underperformers……..

 

[ToneDog]

Why the focus on Marner and not the other clowns?

Seravelli summed up why in his interview on the fan590 yesterday morning (15:34)

The FAN Morning Show

Start your day with Ben Ennis and Brent Gunning in the mornings! The guys tackle everything Toronto sports and beyond live on Sportsnet 590 The FAN weekdays from 6-9AM ET.

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Love the part where the host says Marner is going to show them by having a great season and playoffs and force the Leafs to pay him. Seravelli - yeah and I want to be 170 pounds and have two Swedish models for girl friends.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Love the part where the host says Marner is going to show them by having a great season and playoffs and force the Leafs to pay him. Seravelli - yeah and I want to be 170 pounds and have two Swedish models for girl friends.

Disinformation is ramping up.

The message needs to be clear: Marner is being traded.

Marner is driving the third line and PP2 if he’s delusional enough to return.

Got to start somewhere, hope he’s just the beginning of fixing the cap and getting rid of overpriced underperformers……..

We need to dump an expensive RW and Tre picked Nylander

 

[Nineteen67]

Marner holds all the cards... anything the Leafs do hurts them with free agents or their current season.

I also think most players if they get told they are unwanted, will be fine hearing options of where they can potentially go, but the Leafs have no power here.

Also, tanking Marner's value would be obvious and GMs are smarter than this board and can retain knowledge about a player past a single season.

If, as you say “Marner holds all the cards”, how can the Leafs do anything that hurst them if they have no cards to play?

 

[Trapper]

Seravelli summed up why in his interview on the fan590 yesterday morning (15:34)

The FAN Morning Show

Start your day with Ben Ennis and Brent Gunning in the mornings! The guys tackle everything Toronto sports and beyond live on Sportsnet 590 The FAN weekdays from 6-9AM ET.

www.sportsnet.ca

Love the part where the host says Marner is going to show them by having a great season and playoffs and force the Leafs to pay him. Seravelli - yeah and I want to be 170 pounds and have two Swedish models for girl friends.

I love the part where remember how he blocked a shot 6 years ago.
Maybe some day he will do it again.

 

[Nineteen67]

Wait til Chara retires, we'll get em
Wait til Rask retires, we'll get em
Wait til Bergeron retires, we'll get em
Wait til Krejci retires, we'll get em
Wait til Swayman retires, we'll get em

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Compared to the Leafs, Boston is a great team, however they are flawed and relied heavily on their goalies and I didn’t think they were a Cup contender.
They have to look in the rear view mirror because someone will pass the Leafs in the very near future and they probably won’t have it so easy.

 

[ACC1224]

just post your own thoughts man

It's easier for some to just jump on the froth wagon and echo whatever idiocy they can find.
Critiquing Team sports is hard.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

It's easier for some to just jump on the froth wagon and echo whatever idiocy they can find.
Critiquing Team sports is hard.

Marner must go. Any other conclusions are WRONG.

Yes, it's that simple.

 

[notbias]

Marner must go. Any other conclusions are WRONG.

Yes, it's that simple.

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An oversized image and a GIF, well, I am convinced that's the best thing to do, you should be a lawyer.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

I am convinced that's the best thing to do

So you are keeping Marner.

Run it by me why you think that is a good idea.

 

[Nineteen67]

I love the part where remember how he blocked a shot 6 years ago.
Maybe some day he will do it again.

That was the turning point.

 

[ULF_55]

Marner holds all the cards... anything the Leafs do hurts them with free agents or their current season.

I also think most players if they get told they are unwanted, will be fine hearing options of where they can potentially go, but the Leafs have no power here.

Also, tanking Marner's value would be obvious and GMs are smarter than this board and can retain knowledge about a player past a single season.

No I bet a lot of players know what's going on and some are Leafs fans.

And players will chase the money regardless of what the Leafs do with marner.

Leafs aren't cheap, they're just looking for improvement and have openly said not everyone is doing / accomplishing what they want them to and so they have to change the players.

 

[notbias]

So you are keeping Marner.

Run it by me why you think that is a good idea.

I'm open to any improvements, if that involves moving Marner, that sounds good, let's do it.

The blanket statements about him needing to go are just silly.

 

[Gary Nylund]

TRADE MARNER

Just getting in my daily rep, like this savage.

+1

Seravelli summed up why in his interview on the fan590 yesterday morning (15:34)

The FAN Morning Show

Start your day with Ben Ennis and Brent Gunning in the mornings! The guys tackle everything Toronto sports and beyond live on Sportsnet 590 The FAN weekdays from 6-9AM ET.

www.sportsnet.ca

Love the part where the host says Marner is going to show them by having a great season and playoffs and force the Leafs to pay him. Seravelli - yeah and I want to be 170 pounds and have two Swedish models for girl friends.

Reminds me how some people here have talked about after we trade Marner, maybe he'll go on to win the Conn Smythe with another team.

 

[ToneDog]

I love the part where remember how he blocked a shot 6 years ago.
Maybe some day he will do it again.

That is what it takes to make a deep run and win a SC. Sadly, that series was peak playoff Marner. SH goal on a penalty shot and two blocked Pastrnak shots to preserve the win.

 

[IPS]

Why the focus on Marner and not the other clowns?

I think it's been repeated about 1000x but there's clearly other discussions and criticisms going on regarding other Leafs core players, read around the boards a bit.

You're seeing less of it because Matthews/Nylander faced injury issues in the playoffs, which naturally facilitates less discussion around them with another 1st round exit. Not sure why this is so hard to grasp for some.

 

[Trapper]

That is what it takes to make a deep run and win a SC. Sadly, that series was peak playoff Marner. SH goal on a penalty shot and two blocked Pastrnak shots to preserve the win.

That’s the way the entire core should play. Unfortunately it’s not.
People shouldn’t get mad at us for wanting to move on, blame the players for bringing us here. They just don’t bring that drive/intensity as a group.

 

[Arzak]

Thank you.

TRADE MARNER

Just getting in my daily rep, like this savage.

^^

The best part, if Mitch had 1% of this savages attitude he could stay.

 

[ULF_55]

Well it’s the majority here… I couldn’t begin to list the lynch mob throng.

It is amusing that some believe HF's have the majority of Leafs fans posting here.

Ain't so.

We definitely have opinionated Leafs' fans here, but hardly a majority, and I'd speculate not even a good sample size to know what the majority of Leafs' fans really want/like.

If you went to a boxing match and asked the fans like boxing and then claimed your survey was representative of the entire populate 19 times out of 20 blah blah blah.

We are the fringe ... and there's nothing wrong with that ... really ...

...

Against Boston, It went 7 games to overtime and the Leafs had the best 3 forwards playing at less than 100%, with 2 of them missing key games. And the Leafs lost their better goaltender.

As for Boston you can't say they were missing players who are not on their roster anymore than Leafs can say they were missing Hyman, or Kadri, or Sundin. So they weren't missing Bergeron, or Krejci, or Chara or ...

If you asked if I'd like to run this team back healthy against that Bruins squad, yeah certainly. But of course there is no guarantee they'd be healthy, but high ankle sprain, visual migraine, Matthew's revenge, and last stop injury to lose the shut-out while his teammates were celebrating Woll ... so much Leafs.

At least one excuse (reason?) has been replaced, even if the cast remains the same, the director gets to remake it as he sees fit.

 

[rumman]

Marner must go. Any other conclusions are WRONG.

Yes, it's that simple.

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Marner’s temper tantrum was really embarrassing to bith the team and Leaf fans, professional athletes shouldn’t be acting like spoiled children………

+1

Reminds me how some people here have talked about after we trade Marner, maybe he'll go on to win the Conn Smythe with another team.

I hope he does, as long as it’s with another team………

 

[Trapper]

Marner’s temper tantrum was really embarrassing to bith the team and Leaf fans, professional athletes shouldn’t be acting like spoiled children………


I hope he does, as long as it’s with another team………

When you are handing out big dollar, long term contracts, you have to have a level of trust in what the player has besides skill. Skill isn’t unique, all 16 teams in the playoffs have someone equal to us in skill or they wouldn’t be there. What else does it have, what critical position is it (center,D and goalie taking priority over wingers) and what is the sample size.

I don’t trust these players beyond the regular season dangles. I have stated in the past that I don’t believe in the core.
That includes Matthews and Nylander as well, (I don’t fully trust them either) they just happened to be signed already leaving Marner on the outside.

10 years of a rebuild later and we are having discussions we shouldn’t be having. Except we are. That’s not a good build.

 

[mydnyte]

Marner must go. Any other conclusions are WRONG.

Yes, it's that simple.

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for all the folks that screamed that these players dont show enough emotion...
Marner shows emotion
Marner must go.



I think its good he took a fit on the bench, because it means he cares. Marchand, and Pasta smashed a lot of sticks on their way off the ice, its not that different.

 

[ULF_55]

Why the focus on Marner and not the other clowns?

Yes, that is the speculation.

There have been many opinions put forward in that regard.

We probably can agree Matthews isn't going anywhere.

Nylander they just gave a huge raise to, something they did not have to do. I think Treliving was around long enough to have liked what he saw. Of course 80% (throwing that out from my butt) of the decision was probably on ice performance, but some would have been off ice. You don't give him that money based on being a 40 goal scorer alone.

Tavares, I doubt they are worried about his final year, and they aren't worried about his ask. They will likely have a Malkin, or less, type of deal in mind so that isn't something they'd feel they need to change up.

Rielly, he probably earns his paycheque, and while it would be nice if he was more than he is, the contract is appropriate.

Leads us to marner. Some thought comments made in he transition PC were pointing at marner. That was my impression, but that may not be true.

Maybe, it isn't any of the top 5 players on the team.

Maybe they're looking at the supporting cast and goaltending.

The gap between supporting cast and 1st. liners is enormous.

Maybe the cleaning house is below the top tier.

Media and marner have a symbiotic relationship, and they seem to feed off each other in a non-productive manner. One is good at media the other brutally inept.

 

[ACC1224]

Why the focus on Marner and not the other clowns?

His dad is mean.