If you can’t score more than 2 goals a game, even having Roy or Hasek ain’t going to win you many games in the playoffs.
Which does bring us full circle, I voted he is staying and will walk at the end of the year for nothing, unless we offer 11 X 8.. I’m not bitter about it, it is his right to fulfill his end of his contract. We will see what we get for 11 million, my guess is a couple if mid level grinders. There will be no star D man or star goalie coming here. Again that is just what I believe the likely outcome will be.
We are in the Sharks territory without their success in that we might change the Captaincy while keeping the former Captain. Having a joker as face of the franchise. Esp since our guys still look up to Marleau.
Yup. At least they got it right in the end putting the C on Pavelski.. but Thornton and Marleau just weren't it. There's a lot of parallels between those two and Matthews/Marner.
My original post was about how you would feel about a team like the Leafs if it is not the Leafs.
I don’t think AM is a joke like Thornton but he does lack the I will take over DNA
They still need to score
A lot of those guys also have the overpaid playoff choker label (Pettersson, Huberdeau, Panarin), have put up Conn Smythe level playoffs (Stone, ROR, Kopitar), are selke level players and not paid to just put up points (Barkov), or and most importantly, are so much f***ing cheaper than Marner that they don't belong in the same conversation
I think he's an even bigger joke than Thornton tbh
Well who have faith in Sabres and Sens? I think beside their fans, don’t think anyone even care about them. Some here look at them as an up and coming team but not a threat esp with Green being the Sens coach, lol.
The thing with Matthews and Marner is, their points often feel like empty calories. For what they're paid, they should be taking over the series and putting the team on their back just like McDrai.
This is the logicial fallacy that keeps getting pushed. Marner is a playmaker and his primary job is to generate team offense, that's why he has assists and not goals, and the team offense in the playoffs, with him leading, has been dreadful. That's because a charmin soft winger playing ice capades from the perimeter is not an effective playoff strategy.
Darren Ferris routinely takes his clients straight to the brink of free agency, and often has them test it as well - Taylor Hall and Nazem Kadri are 2 notable free agents in recent times who were both wanted by their teams, but Ferris stood firm.
It's the GMs job to come up with a fix depending on the information he has available, which NONE OF US are privy to. Oh, and what "number" are you talking about? I won't continue this pseudo intellectual navel gazing exercise with you.
Do you really think Marner will stay for the exact same salary? A 100K raise?
You and I don't disagree all that much the only difference we have is on whether or not the arguments are emotional, and which "side" exhibits said emotion.
Absolutely, I’m not Dubas, Mitch won’t leave for somewhere else if we offer him 11 X 8. What other offer could he possibly get 7 X12, he is not leaving for that difference. 7 X 13, might be tempting but nope he’s a fan and will stay much like JT was. I’d be more than shocked if anyonee offered 14, just not happening.
Marner does this in the hope it creates a goal. Sometimes it will even go in directly if there is enough traffic and the goalie is having an off night. The thing is Rielly does the exact same thing. So we have 2 guys doing this. And we really only need one.
