Player Discussion Mitch Marner - On Hiatus

[Leaf Fans]

TWO HOURS?

......

CB: Mitch, we plan on playing an aggressive forechecking style. It will require you to aggressively be on the puck at all times, and to give and take a hit to make a play as required. Can you do that Mitch?

MM: Coach, I really love playing here in Toronto. I can do whatever it takes.

CB: OK Mitch, I'll take you at your word. He's what I need you to do in the offseason. I need you to hit the weights hard. I need you to concentrate on developing upper and lower body strength, and I want you to eat right and put on 20 pounds. Can you commit to that?

MM: WELL.....

CB: In addition I need you to work on your skating and especially your shot. Can you commit to that?

MM: Let me call my agent.

Those pretend conversations are so nonsensical.

 

[Racer88]

Gary Bettman gets an old man semi-hardon every time a Canadian team is eliminated. The NHL office wants Florida to win right now.

I would take a semi on my 8” over a rager on your 5”…..just saying
Lol

 

[francis246]

18pts in 14 playoff games this year, never mind his leadership abilities. oh and 9.5m.

He has 5 goals of those 18 points. 2 goals in his last 11 playoff games. But sure go off with posting raw stats lol. Not sure why this board loves gawking him off so much. Not saying our stars are better but people act like he’s the second coming of Jesus. There’s a few guys around the league watching this playoffs I’d take over him, including a few on his own team

 

[Racer88]

There's not many wingers who can give 90-100 points and his level of defence.

There's a 1% chance he is traded. You have better odds marner figures out his playoff offence issue than to bet on being better without him.

After 8 years he’s suddenly going to fix his playoff issues. If that is truly the case maybe they should have waited until he figured it out before they gave him the insane contract..
Unless he can grow a pair he will never get playoff hockey

 

[socko]

Why exactly would you bring back Marner?

1) He plays on the top line. We've seen a lot of this. Results not great. Line is far too soft to win in the playoffs.
2) He plays on the 2nd line. Can he score 40 goals away from Matthews like Nylander does? Of course not, he can't score 40 goals with Matthews. So what's he going to do setup Tavares? For $12 million per year? Yeah, no.

It's a shame they didn't move him before his NMC kicked in. Shanahan really should have been fired for that alone.

 

[Racer88]

Why is he having 1 on 1 meetings with the new coach if his plan is to find a new destination this summer? It looks like the plan is to let him play out his contract year under Berube and then see what happens.

I’m guessing that he was asking Berube if he was going to mean and make him do hard things or can I dipsy doodle all I want and go AWOL in the playoffs. lol

 

[PROUD PAPA]

This seems like a sign that Marner is going stick around more than him being a malcontent that wants out , no?

All I get out of it is he's willing to communicate. I have no idea what his personal opinions regarding his future are.

 

[Confucius]

Why is he having 1 on 1 meetings with the new coach if his plan is to find a new destination this summer? It looks like the plan is to let him play out his contract year under Berube and then see what happens.

Let him play? Guys keep thinking the organization is in the driver’s seat. The whole meeting thing just seemed weird. Why wasn’t it at Scotia bank arena? Why didn’t the new coach go to the Marner digs? Not even a swank restaurant, just seems like a modest coffee shop I doubt either frequent very often if ever before.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

Let him play? Guys keep thinking the organization is in the driver’s seat. The whole meeting thing just seemed weird. Why wasn’t it at Scotia bank arena? Why didn’t the new coach go to the Marner digs? Not even a swank restaurant, just seems like a modest coffee shop I doubt either frequent very often if ever before.

The overdrive guys said something similar. Why out in public like that and not behind closed doors? It's an interesting development.

 

[Confucius]

The overdrive guys said something similar. Why out in public like that and not behind closed doors? It's an interesting development.

I guess they may have avoided the arena because Mitch would definitely want his agent around if it was anything that seriously had a chance of changing.

 

[Antropovsky]

TWO HOURS?

......

CB: Mitch, we plan on playing an aggressive forechecking style. It will require you to aggressively be on the puck at all times, and to give and take a hit to make a play as required. Can you do that Mitch?

MM: Coach, I really love playing here in Toronto. I can do whatever it takes.

CB: OK Mitch, I'll take you at your word. He's what I need you to do in the offseason. I need you to hit the weights hard. I need you to concentrate on developing upper and lower body strength, and I want you to eat right and put on 20 pounds. Can you commit to that?

MM: WELL.....

CB: In addition I need you to work on your skating and especially your shot. Can you commit to that?

MM: Let me call my agent.

So... he ran out of lives with Dubas, but Dubas left. Then he was given another chance with Treliving. He failed even worse. Now... a coach change, to see if that will help? He was having the same difficulties when Babs was the coach, Babs literally said he needs "to dig in" during the 2017 playoffs

He’s got to dig in,” Babcock said Saturday. “Everything about guys who score and feed off having the puck, sometimes in the playoffs you never get the puck. So you’ve got to come to grips with that and then enjoy the touches you do have and work hard to get it back.

I get it if it was just the lack of production, but you can't teach heart.its unfair to his teammates for Marner to now say "I can play more physical..I'll go into the corners and to the front of the net"...

Though the sports writer pointed out in 2017, what we've been saying about Marner since day 1, playoff speed is too much for him:

One of the challenges with Marner is not his size, but rather his style of play. He’s a creative player whose strength is his patience with the puck. He likes to play keep-away and wait for opponents to open passing and shooting lanes. Those extra seconds are nowhere to be found these days; opposing forwards who may have floated in the regular season are suddenly more aggressive on the backcheck.

 

[Nineteen67]

Pics on instagram of Marner and Berube having a coffee alone, let the speculation begin

“There’s some great places to live in StL, Mitchy. It’s a great hockey town, they have the Cardinals, terrific neighbourhood restaurants and no one will bother you. (All true, by the way). Don’t forget about Anaheim. Orange county? Out East? Absolutely perfect for you, you already know enough French to get by, but if you don’t learn more, the media will leave you alone. Out west? They’ll love you. No, You don’t want to live in Nashville or anywhere in Florida, far too hot and humid.”

 

[Trapper]

All I get out of it is he's willing to communicate. I have no idea what his personal opinions regarding his future are.

It’s all speculation at the this point.
Whether Marner stays 1 year, signs long term or is traded, they aren’t going to ignore him.
I would imagine Berube, Tre and Shanahan will all speak to him. They have too if they meant they were conducting a complete investigation. They said they were going through everything.

 

[Gary Nylund]

If we were drafting a team to play in the playoffs, how many people here I wonder would take Marner over Hyman?

I'm taking Hyman, that's for damn sure. When it comes to playoff hockey, Hyman's a player and Marner's a wuss, simple as that.

 

[Nineteen67]

What a pivotal decision for both the leafs and Marner for future planning. The CBA is to blame, if there wasn't a hard cap we wouldn't need to be cut throat with our players.

Sadly, up until right now we've been cut throat to everyone but the core 4.

Will be a fascinating summer. I haven't a clue what will happen to Liljegren nevermind Marner.

A potential Marner trade could go 100 different ways.

You'd think if the Leafs were considering extending him this offseason we'd hear something. Don't think that is likely.

As fans we just need to let it ride. I hate the month of August, it's a hockey news wasteland. Maybe the next month will get interesting

Can you imagine just how bad Matthews, Marner, Nylander would be if there was no salary cap and they all 15-20 million x 10 yrs.

 

[GoonieFace]

We all know he’s staying, this organization has smaller balls than Mitch.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Can you imagine just how bad Matthews, Marner, Nylander would be if there was no salary cap and they all 15-20 million x 10 yrs.

Yes I can. They'd be exactly the same.

 

[Trapper]

Yes I can. They'd be exactly the same.

We are talking about giving Bertuzzi 5 million/year now when we could have given it to Hyman back then. But we couldn’t because we are paying 4 guys half the cap.
And 3 of 4 score 1 goal. It’s exactly the same.

 

[Nineteen67]

Yes I can. They'd be exactly the same.

Only with more mysterious viruses and migraines throughout the regular season.

 

[Craig Button]

What’s wrong with Marner’s leg?

 

[darrylsittler27]

None of our core 4 have the ability to carry the team on their back. NONE

Maybe Mitch will do the same as matthews and sign a shorter contract and be greedy by getting another contract after this.

If the leafs can’t trade him they won’t cut his ice time put him on the third line with no powerplay time like some dumb posters believe could happen.

Mitch has all the control over his contract and where he will play after this year when he is unrestricted.

The fact is anything can happen. Don't cry too much when Mitch opts out.

I do find the meeting interesting, since Berube said he had already spoken with Mitch.

Edit. Sorry didn't realize this was from last week. The two hours is noteworthy. Exactly

He has 5 goals of those 18 points. 2 goals in his last 11 playoff games. But sure go off with posting raw stats lol. Not sure why this board loves gawking him off so much. Not saying our stars are better but people act like he’s the second coming of Jesus. There’s a few guys around the league watching this playoffs I’d take over him, including a few on his own team

But at 9.5 million, it works. Mitch at $12M doesn't work for us. We need a back end.

 

[thewave]

What’s wrong with Marner’s leg?

He has a hoof. He is more horse than man now I am afraid.

 

[myleafs]

He has 5 goals of those 18 points. 2 goals in his last 11 playoff games. But sure go off with posting raw stats lol. Not sure why this board loves gawking him off so much. Not saying our stars are better but people act like he’s the second coming of Jesus. There’s a few guys around the league watching this playoffs I’d take over him, including a few on his own team

But you said he wasn't doing much, trying to compare him to our top guys not doing much...I point out he has more than a pt per game not to mention at a cheaper cost and you say yea but he only has 5 goals. Do you watch him play at all? I mean I guess other than being in the conference finals, He is a leader. He gives a shit and it shows. I want more of that from our big guns, as it should be if you want any chance at all at going the distance.

This seems like a sign that Marner is going stick around more than him being a malcontent that wants out , no?

I mean as of now Marner is still on the team and Berube has already said he likes to meet the players so it makes sense. Im not sure it means anything either way regarding Marners future in Toronto.

 

[myleafs]

Only with more mysterious viruses and migraines throughout the regular season.

no no no, only once the playoffs start...sheesh

 

[keonsbitterness]

What’s wrong with Marner’s leg?

Aliens!