Confirmed with Link: Mitch Marner Discussion Thread II - First Team All-Star

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I would be shocked if this is what the advanced stats didn't look like. Marners game was advanced stats dream.

Final execution was an F. No advanced stat is going to change that. New year same shit when he had the puck on a string (elim games). Looking pretty more important than results.
 
I would be shocked if this is what the advanced stats didn't look like. Marners game was advanced stats dream.

Final execution was an F. No advanced stat is going to change that. New year same shit when he had the puck on a string (elim games). Looking pretty more important than results.
Shhhh. Leafs best two way player of the series, arguably. Go find a dog to kick or something, your act is a bore.
 
Shhhh. Leafs best two way player of the series, arguably. Go find a dog to kick or something, your act is a bore.
Right, right. Another year for you to go cuddle with the xGF in bed while the opponent advances. Knock yourself out.

For the record I still believe in Marner. But the zero-clutch for second half of series is getting tiring.
 
Marner was much improved this playoff over the last. That's very encouraging.

What I didn't like is that he didn't simplify his game towards the end of the series. Game six especially he tried to do way too much.

In the last two games there was too much spinning around and making fancy moves, often not leading to any kind of scoring chance. As great as he is, I think sometimes he needs to realize when the simple play is the better decision.

This is just a general observation. I'm not going to tell Mitch Marner how to play. I don't want him to stop being creative, just to show better judgement in when to go for the spectacular move or not.
 
In the last two games there was too much spinning around and making fancy moves, often not leading to any kind of scoring chance. As great as he is, I think sometimes he needs to realize when the simple play is the better decision.

This is just a general observation. I'm not going to tell Mitch Marner how to play. I don't want him to stop being creative, just to show better judgement in when to go for the spectacular move or not.

Couldn't disagree more. His movement was to attempt to open up space in a super tight game. He made lots of good plays to create scoring opportunities. Even drew a penalty.

Problem was he would make a pass to Rielly who instead of taking a shot would hold on to the puck looking for a non-existent pass and the opportunity was gone.

Rielly scored the nice goal but besides that was terrible offensively.
 
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Couldn't disagree more. His movement was to attempt to open up space in a super tight game. He made lots of good plays to create scoring opportunities. Even drew a penalty.

Problem was he would make a pass to Rielly who instead of taking a shot would hold on to the puck looking for a non-existent pass and the opportunity was gone.

Rielly scored the nice goal but besides that was terrible offensively.
I think not having a 100% Bunting hurts. Also, I think AM is hurting too because his shot just didn't have the snap before he went down late into the season.
Anyhow, Marner overthink a bit in Game 6 and 7 but he did well throughout the series, in short he showed up.
 
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Couldn't disagree more. His movement was to attempt to open up space in a super tight game. He made lots of good plays to create scoring opportunities. Even drew a penalty.

Problem was he would make a pass to Rielly who instead of taking a shot would hold on to the puck looking for a non-existent pass and the opportunity was gone.

Rielly scored the nice goal but besides that was terrible offensively.

When it comes to a passing play, Rielly is the limiting factor that kind of slows everything down cause you can see his brain processing processing. He's best when he's on a rush and just plays instinctively.
 
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Couldn't disagree more. His movement was to attempt to open up space in a super tight game. He made lots of good plays to create scoring opportunities. Even drew a penalty.

Problem was he would make a pass to Rielly who instead of taking a shot would hold on to the puck looking for a non-existent pass and the opportunity was gone.

Rielly scored the nice goal but besides that was terrible offensively.

It might have been an attempt to open up space, but for the most part I don't feel like it was successful. I think more passing would have had a better chance to get something going rather than him spinning around beside the boards.

Perhaps your comment on Rielly is an explanation, if Marner decided it wasn't worth passing to him. Obviously Tampa was going to do everything possible to prevent passes to #34.
 


how many shots on goal did he end up getting after playing half the game?

I think not having a 100% Bunting hurts. Also, I think AM is hurting too because his shot just didn't have the snap before he went down late into the season.
Anyhow, Marner overthink a bit in Game 6 and 7 but he did well throughout the series, in short he showed up.

yup he never recovered from that late season injury. that injury spelled the end of the season.
 
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Couldn't disagree more. His movement was to attempt to open up space in a super tight game. He made lots of good plays to create scoring opportunities. Even drew a penalty.

Problem was he would make a pass to Rielly who instead of taking a shot would hold on to the puck looking for a non-existent pass and the opportunity was gone.

Rielly scored the nice goal but besides that was terrible offensively.
You're just pointing out one of the bad habits he resorts to when the opponent tightens up on us.

All that spinning does not create space. Never has and never will. He's spinning around the perimeter, exactly where they want him to be.

That's why it's annoying seeing him try old tricks instead of actually attempting to break the system. Or just keep it simple and try to get the puck on net and take an ugly bounce for a goal instead like normal people do.

He dominated puck possession all night (compliment) there were so many opportunities to try something else besides stuff he knows killed us already in the past (criticism).
 
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I think not having a 100% Bunting hurts. Also, I think AM is hurting too because his shot just didn't have the snap before he went down late into the season.
Anyhow, Marner overthink a bit in Game 6 and 7 but he did well throughout the series, in short he showed up.

Yep we didn't see one single signature Matthews wrister all series. It's really too bad he can't stay healthy.
 
Right, right. Another year for you to go cuddle with the xGF in bed while the opponent advances. Knock yourself out.

For the record I still believe in Marner. But the zero-clutch for second half of series is getting tiring.
Best forward Game 7, also best on his line.
 
Imagine playing all those minutes, being a guy with the puck on his stick and only having 1 giveaway the entire series.
 
You're just pointing out one of the bad habits he resorts to when the opponent tightens up on us.

All that spinning does not create space. Never has and never will. He's spinning around the perimeter, exactly where they want him to be.

That's why it's annoying seeing him try old tricks instead of actually attempting to break the system. Or just keep it simple and try to get the puck on net and take an ugly bounce for a goal instead like normal people do.

He dominated puck possession all night (compliment) there were so many opportunities to try something else besides stuff he knows killed us already in the past (criticism).

I mean his spinning around and movement doesn't work every single time but you also to have to remember he often has the puck in spots where there is no clear play. We have enough guys on the team who attempt to play ABC hockey and produced absolutely nothing out there. Engvall-Mikheyev-Kampf is your ABC line and they did absolutely nothing in games 6-7. Tampa was playing rock solid D in their own zone.

I don't know what game you were watching but he wasn't only spinning around the perimeter. Surely you saw the play where he walked to the net and drew a penalty from Stamkos?

Marner and Nylander were the only two players who when they got the puck on their stick created opportunities. Marner's movement opened up lanes and forced Tampa into having to make tough decisions and work harder to defend him. He didn't always execute the pass but he was always dangerous which is the whole point.
 
I'd love if we could somehow trade Marner for Brady Tkachuk, but there's no way Ottawa would do that. I think that also shows how terrible Marner's contact is.
 
Really hope Mitch is OK after this incident. Violence against anyone is repugnant! Doesn’t matter who you are or what your status is! People who contribute sly digs to unfortunate circumstances are the lowest common denominator. I am glad my years are running out, this is not the world I was brought up in. We might have been poor but we were respectful, maybe not altar boys but nothing like this society has “evolved into “! Just hope heaven has a place for me.
 

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