Salary Cap: Mitch Marner Contract Discussion Part VII | The Saga Continues

[Mess]

If Marner takes to the road to solicit offer sheets he may as well stay on the road. Given the Marleau trade and the shrinking cap his demands are completely unreasonable and crippling the team.

If Marner did sign an OS and Leafs didn't match, then was it really necessary to deal a 1st round pick to unload Marleau?

 

[Menzinger]

The Leafs being able to match an offer sheet won't stop offer sheets. It doesn't remove any leverage from Marner.

It means teams wont be offering them if they know they'll just be matched.

It's why we almost never see them used when you also factor in the high compensation.

Marners negotiation leverage sinking faster than the titanic

 

[Caesium]

It means teams wont be offering them if they know they'll just be matched.

It's why we almost never see them used when you also factor in the high compensation.

Marners negotiation leverage sinking faster than the titanic

You only hear about the ones that get signed, you have no idea about the ones that don't.

 

[Leafidelity]

Fine, then take a hike Mitch.

Just trade this loser already. This is not the kind of me-first attitude I want in our room or around our other young kids.

 

[Menzinger]

If Marner did sign an OS and Leafs didn't match, then was it really necessary to deal a 1st round pick to unload Marleau?

Then they wouldnt have been able to lock in Kapanen and Johnsson today.

If they did they wouldn't have the capspace to match. If Marner does sign an offersheet, the Leafs have the option to sit and think if it's worth it or not.

 

[Menzinger]

You only hear about the ones that get signed, you have no idea about the ones that don't.

A player hasnt signed one in 6 years. And it's been even longer since a player left his team via one.

The threat of offersheets is more of a fantasy for message board conversations and sensationalist media than reality. The number of players who have signed offersheets in the salary cap era is minuscule.

An empty threat by a desperate agent.

 

[kk87]

I still say he's bluffing, trying to leverage other teams in order to squeeze a couple million more out of Dubas. Call him on it - let him do what he wants, I'm still pretty confident he'll come crawling back. Can't imagine he'd leave his hometown team to go play for some bottom feeder.

 

[nuck]

A player hasnt signed one in 6 years. And it's been even longer since a player left his team via one.

The threat of offersheets is more of a fantasy for message board conversations and sensationalist media than reality. The number of players who have signed offersheets in the salary cap era is minuscule.

An empty threat by a desperate agent.

Word is Aho is looking for $9.5 from the Canes who are balking. I don't think they would match a $10.5 OS so he makes more sense as a target.

 

[hullsy47]

If Marner did sign an OS and Leafs didn't match, then was it really necessary to deal a 1st round pick to unload Marleau?

yes because u may be getting aho or point

 

[Schooner]

Word is Aho is looking for $9.5 from the Canes who are balking. I don't think they would match a $10.5 OS so he makes more sense as a target.

That's impossible, I thought only the Leafs could be offer sheeted

 

[Riellyfan04]

with kapp and johnsson siggning now, i could care less what marner does.... ill have the 4 first rounders and cap space

 

[Stephen]

If Marner did sign an OS and Leafs didn't match, then was it really necessary to deal a 1st round pick to unload Marleau?

Depends on how you use the cap I suppose.

 

[Notsince67]

Sorry, should have said 'as much as'. Does that really change the point?

The point is that the facts dont really matter as long as you are bashing the right kid?

 

[Ziggdiezan]

I think the leaking of the numbers for Kap+AJ are probably from Dubas trying to put a little pressure on Marner. He can see the cap space shrinking to fit him in the team without major overhauls

 

[nuck]

Who says it's four 1sts? 3 years at $10.55 million would be two 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd.

But would he be interested in a three year deal? I think players don't like the bridge because of the security and while that's not bridge money it still has the short term risk. I think at $10.55 x 3 the club just matches and then trades him. Give him a year to prove his value, another playoff run, and then trade him when hopefully a higher cap makes the number easier to swallow. Certainly they won't let him jack them again in 3 years, and two years of remaining term would be attractive to another club.

 

[hullsy47]

with kapp and johnsson siggning now, i could care less what marner does.... ill have the 4 first rounders and cap space

what teams have 4 first rounders lol

 

[Notsince67]

If Marner did sign an OS and Leafs didn't match, then was it really necessary to deal a 1st round pick to unload Marleau?

The fact that they havent announced kappy contract details also point to a defensive position related to an offersheet threat.

 

[Riellyfan04]

what teams have 4 first rounders lol

well who ever wants to offer sheet marner. no other way to offer sheet him if they dont have 4 first rounders in the next 4 drafts

 

[Notsince67]

It means teams wont be offering them if they know they'll just be matched.

It's why we almost never see them used when you also factor in the high compensation.

Marners negotiation leverage sinking faster than the titanic

Hot take much?

 

[Riellyfan04]

what if marner said to dubas sign johnnssom and kappy first with friendly cap and i will do the same.... lol

 

[Caesium]

what if marner said to dubas sign johnnssom and kappy first with friendly cap and i will do the same.... lol

Johnsson is a 24 year old with 46 career points, is hit cap hit actually team friendly?

 

[Mess]

The fact that they havent announced kappy contract details also point to a defensive position related to an offersheet threat.

With Ferris not meeting with Dubas at the draft, like originally had been planned, and announcing they're about to listen to other teams next week and combine that with Leafs actions and it does appear Leafs are bracing for an potential OS situation are positioning themselves best they can.

 

[Menzinger]

Johnsson is a 24 year old with 46 career points, is hit cap hit actually team friendly?

4 years of term, including one ufa year. We've seen guys with career High's of 49 points get 7 million this ufa season.

Johnson's contract is a steal.

 

[Riellyfan04]

Johnsson is a 24 year old with 46 career points, is hit cap hit actually team friendly?

well the way hayes just got 7.2m , yes it is...

 

[hector morrison]

Kapanen and Johnsson fall in line and are locked in a sweetheart prices. Leafs with ton of capspace to match any offersheet.

Marner suddenly looking like a luxury at this point. Might have to start accepting a deal under 10 mil of he wants to stay in Toronto

Yeah ..poor Mitch,living on Kucherov money!!!