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Mitch Marner Continued II

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Dekes For Days said:
I haven't "denied the validity of the quotes". I pointed out that he was quoting one quote while discussing the other.

That's not true. One time, he said that he wasn't as engaged physically, in the first game back after not playing for months, in a pandemic environment with no fans, when many players were struggling to adjust. The other time, he made a common cliche comment about the team needing to start better.

Contracts matter, but they are not relevant to this discussion. Their contracts do not make them immune from the normal ups and downs that all players and teams experience. Expecting them to be 100% perfect and dominant at all times in every way is unrealistic.

Problems with your particular interpretation of what's happened aside, there may very well be things to "hold against them". Those comments are not one of those things.

The less than ideal start in those games wasn't really them, but also, all elite players have slow starts to games from time to time.

There's nothing to suggest there's a "sense of entitlement".
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I am not expecting perfection but for the amount they are being paid I expect a heck of a lot more from Marner then 1 playoff goal from him in the last 3 years and zero PP goals in almost a full season.
 
Many are frustrated with Marners playoff performance. A player that usually get points even games he play like crap. Plays ok but get almost no points and worse no goals. But i hope most of us want to be served a big couldron of crow come playoff.

He got a big opportunity to step up and i think he will take it, cant get so much worse right now so the preassure might not weigh him down as much this year.
 
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This guy has the heart of a whale....

dumb not to like this asset grab by dubas...


dubas is way ahead of the curve..

least three to five years,zeke,must be in his bliss.
 
Shanwhatplan said:
To dominate the other team is one thing, to show up and compete is another. Why couldn’t they at least have shown up in those games. They were manhandled.
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They were not manhandled in the slightest. They did show up to compete in those games. Montreal just had some strong starts, and had some bounces go their way. Through the final 3 games, the Leafs had more shots (109-84), scoring chances (97-72), scoring chance shots (64-47), high danger chances (38-23), high danger shots (30-22), and had a better xGF% (54.4%).
Racer88 said:
I am not expecting perfection but for the amount they are being paid I expect a heck of a lot more from Marner then 1 playoff goal from him in the last 3 years and zero PP goals in almost a full season.
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Then as problematic as that description of what Marner's brought may be, be upset about that, instead of blowing some nothing quote out of proportion.
 
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ACC1224 said:
Like all players they work on all aspects of their game every off season

You think he’s lying?
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Every year since his rookie season he has "been working hard on his shot" and barely anything has changed. No he is probably not lying but also, there is no evidence Marner's hard work will ever improve his shot enough. He is much easier to shutdown when you can spend less time worrying about his shot
 
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Walshy7 said:
Every year since his rookie season he has "been working hard on his shot" and barely anything has changed. No he is probably not lying but also, there is no evidence Marner's hard work will ever improve his shot enough. He is much easier to shutdown when you can spend less time worrying about his shot
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It seems he is working on a quicker release. He'll never have an overpowering shot, IMO.
 
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Walshy7 said:
Every year since his rookie season he has "been working hard on his shot" and barely anything has changed. No he is probably not lying but also, there is no evidence Marner's hard work will ever improve his shot enough. He is much easier to shutdown when you can spend less time worrying about his shot
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I mean, kid was on pace for 30 goals last year.
 
think it's crazy that he hasn't been tried here before - not because i think it should be permanent or anything, but because Mitch and the other stars should all be movign and switching between all these spots on the PP constantly.

 
zeke said:
think it's crazy that he hasn't been tried here before - not because i think it should be permanent or anything, but because Mitch and the other stars should all be movign and switching between all these spots on the PP constantly.

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I’m too lazy to find the post in the pp discussion but this is what I was suggesting. Hope it works lol.
 
zeke said:
I mean, kid was on pace for 30 goals last year.
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not a huge fan of "on pace for", cold streaks are always a possibility maybe even probability. He was on pace for at at least 2 goals per 7 game series in his first 3 playoffs series, 0 in 14 in last 2 series
 
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Walshy7 said:
not a huge fan of "on pace for", cold streaks are always a possibility maybe even probability. He was on pace for at at least 2 goals per 7 game series in his first 3 playoffs series, 0 in 14 in last 2 series
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Agreed. On “pace for” means very little. It’s kind of like expected goals…..that’s meaningless.
These are events that someone thinks might happen but they didn’t happen
 
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not a huge fan of "on pace for", cold streaks are always a possibility maybe even probability. He was on pace for at at least 2 goals per 7 game series in his first 3 playoffs series, 0 in 14 in last 2 series
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I don't understand the complaints about Pace when we're looking at a 56gm season.
 
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zeke said:
I don't understand the complaints about Pace when we're looking at a 56gm season.
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Yea, pace seems the most logical thing to do, especially in light of those who spin points totals between larger and smaller sample seasons like they are comparable.
 
Walshy7 said:
because pace isn't real its just a best guess, Up until i had 3 numbers left in the lottery draw i was on pace for $70M
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I don't know how we can just ignore that last season was only 56gms long.
 
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