Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XCII: A buyer's or seller's market?

[Beef Invictus]

do they have enuf refs and backstage people to nake that a reality ?

Even if they do, it's a fantastic way to minimize possible viewership for games as there's no way to avoid the league competing with itself.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

But GMs are infallible and this is indisputable proof that they’re not good players.

After all, if they were good, why wouldn’t a GM want them fOr FrEe!?

said no poster ever

 

[Beef Invictus]

said no poster ever

Several posters have speculated that the collective judgement of NHL GMs cannot be wrong, and have heavily mocked anyone who dares to question any professional GM's judgements.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Several posters have speculated that the collective judgement of NHL GMs cannot be wrong, and have heavily mocked anyone who dares to question any professional GM's judgements.

no one has ever said they are infallible.

 

[Curufinwe]

I wonder if the player Marek mentioned who fell off the skateboard while drunk in whiten and hurt his back was Vinny L.

 

[Lara Emily]

Sure outshoot the Wings but give up 6 while trying to secure a playoff spot... why not.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

 

[CerpinTaxt]

If you average point totals, it takes great players to score 140pts in 2 seasons.
It takes good players to score 140pts in 3 seasons
It takes regular players to score 140pts 4 seasons
It takes replacement level players to score 140 pts 5 seasons
Bottom nhl players may take their whole careers or never even make it to 140 pts in the nhl
McDavid is on another level, and the season isn't over. But yea John Tortorella would rather have grinders. Cause scoring doesn't win you cups

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Unclaimed waiver. Cap dump for an AHLer + 7th rounder. Definitely no value to be had there. I’ll take a UFA Brendan Lemieux, thank you.

Don't watch the St. Louis/Vancouver highlights if you want to keep your blood pressure down.

 

[Magua]

But yea John Tortorella would rather have grinders.

That’s not true. He’d rather have Barkov. A totally defensible position. He has 66 points, McDavid has 60 goals. Close enough.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

If you average point totals, it takes great players to score 140pts in 2 seasons.
It takes good players to score 140pts in 3 seasons
It takes regular players to score 140pts 4 seasons
It takes replacement level players to score 140 pts 5 seasons
Bottom nhl players may take their whole careers or never even make it to 140 pts in the nhl
McDavid is on another level, and the season isn't over. But yea John Tortorella would rather have grinders. Cause scoring doesn't win you cups

I was thinking about this a day or two ago. Sebastian Aho (the good one) has 143 points over the last two seasons. McDavid has that many this year alone. The man is a human cheat code, and we're so privileged to be able to watch him.

 

[Lara Emily]

Absolutely tragic he's doing all this on middle of the pack playoffs bound team.

The inability to build around McDavid and Draisaitl in Edmonton is almost depressing

 

[kudymen]

Whoa the new white knight is really boring. Igor to the rescue

 

[DancingPanther]

Unclaimed waiver. Cap dump for an AHLer + 7th rounder. Definitely no value to be had there. I’ll take a UFA Brendan Lemieux, thank you.

The NHL right now is so ripe for the picking. Most of these guys have no clue. A lot of us say things like "this isn't Chel" when we see a wild trade proposal, but winning in the margins/identifying albatross UFAs and not getting baited is just as simple as it is in the videogames. We're reminded of this almost every year at least a few times. It's crazy how just being competent puts you head and shoulders above most roster builders

 

[thedjpd]

Absolutely tragic he's doing all this on middle of the pack playoffs bound team.

The inability to build around McDavid and Draisaitl in Edmonton is almost depressing

I’m all for high end talent as that has become the latest catch phrase. But it is absolutely an embarrassment that a team will 3 100+ point players in this day and age and be just “fighting” for a playoff spot.

Shows that even high end talent isn’t enough.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

It's been like this all season, and I think last season as well. It's annoying as hell.

You truly only have yourself to blame.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

I was thinking about this a day or two ago. Sebastian Aho (the good one) has 143 points over the last two seasons. McDavid has that many this year alone. The man is a human cheat code, and we're so privileged to be able to watch him.

A shame that I'm at such a low interest point with hockey because of how lobg I know it will be before the Flyers are relevant that I haven't even watched him much.

Hard to care about the cool stuff going on in the league, or keep tabs on things when McDavid will be in his mid 30s before the Flyers might be a contender.

 

[Lara Emily]

I’m all for high end talent as that has become the latest catch phrase. But it is absolutely an embarrassment that a team will 3 100+ point players in this day and age and be just “fighting” for a playoff spot.

Shows that even high end talent isn’t enough.

3 players with 100 points
Same 3 all have 60+ assists

And they're third in the Pacific?! And were a wild card for a good part of the season too

It's depressing for the those players

 

[DancingPanther]

Absolutely tragic he's doing all this on middle of the pack playoffs bound team.

The inability to build around McDavid and Draisaitl in Edmonton is almost depressing

The black hole for them is a goalie. I wonder where they could find a borderline elite goalie that fits their timeline of winning now and later. Hmmmm

 

[Starat327]

The black hole for them is a goalie. I wonder where they could find a borderline elite goalie that fits their timeline of winning now and later. Hmmmm

The crime here is that Holland is the only one who was so dumb he couldn't fully take advantage of Fletcher.

 

[Beef Invictus]

no one has ever said they are infallible.

I just laid out that they have. You must not be Catholic.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

I just laid out that they have. You must not be Catholic.

Thanks for the explanation. No one has ever said they are infallible.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Thanks for the explanation. No one has ever said they are infallible.

They said the collective judgement of GMs cannot be wrong. That's the definition of infallible. Learn words and how they work.

 

[deadhead]

If you average point totals, it takes great players to score 140pts in 2 seasons.
It takes good players to score 140pts in 3 seasons
It takes regular players to score 140pts 4 seasons
It takes replacement level players to score 140 pts 5 seasons
Bottom nhl players may take their whole careers or never even make it to 140 pts in the nhl
McDavid is on another level, and the season isn't over. But yea John Tortorella would rather have grinders. Cause scoring doesn't win you cups

McKinnon has a Cup, Point has 2 Cups, ROR has a Cup, Kopitar has 2 Cups, Toews has 3 Cups.
McDavid, zero Cups.

Maybe Torts has a point?
Maybe scoring is necessary, but not sufficient?
Maybe elite players aren't enough?
Maybe TEAMS win championships, not players?

 

[Starat327]

oh wow.