Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XCII: A buyer's or seller's market?

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[ellja3]

Oh dear Lord

 

[Starat327]

My face when I realize that Connor McDavid built the oilers, so it truly is his fault he has t won anything.

Also, managers build teams, and Mack has won a cup. I'm sure this means that Fletcher and Sakic are just about equal though

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

I'm guessing I missed a take that is truly f***ed because I don't see that message. Maybe I shouldn't ask.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Sucks the league has robbed USA Hockey of icing possibly one of their best ever rosters in recent years in best on best international play.

 

[Beef Invictus]

McKinnon has a Cup, Point has 2 Cups, ROR has a Cup, Kopitar has 2 Cups, Toews has 3 Cups.
McDavid, zero Cups.

Maybe Torts has a point?
Maybe scoring is necessary, but not sufficient?
Maybe elite players aren't enough?
Maybe TEAMS win championships, not players?

I know you realize how faulty this is. So you're deliberately presenting bad reasoning.

That also isn't Tortorella's point. He openly hates scoring. He prefers Barkov to McDavid. He's an idiot.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Connor McDavid made it further in the playoffs last year than John Tortorella has in over a decade.

 

[Starat327]

I know you realize how faulty this is. So you're deliberately presenting bad reasoning.

That also isn't Tortorella's point. He openly hates scoring. He prefers Barkov to McDavid. He's an idiot.

Couturier has 0 cups. Barkov has Zero cups. Patrick Kane has 3 cups, Nikita Kucherov has 2 cups. Maybe, like, Scoring wins championships, and two way play is overrated, bro.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Maybe TEAMS win championships, not players?

You've spent at least 8 years telling me to stop obsessing over depth pieces as the Flyers loaded 12 Minutes out of every game into the wood chipper.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

McKinnon has a Cup, Point has 2 Cups, ROR has a Cup, Kopitar has 2 Cups, Toews has 3 Cups.
McDavid, zero Cups.

Maybe Torts has a point?
Maybe scoring is necessary, but not sufficient?
Maybe elite players aren't enough?
Maybe TEAMS win championships, not players?

You know who else has a Cup?



CHAD LAROSE, BITCH

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Good call. Hard left into Tom & Jerry. Turn into the slide.

 

[Beef Invictus]

You've spent at least 8 years telling me to stop obsessing over depth pieces as the Flyers loaded 12 Minutes out of every game into the wood chipper.

Turns out that the people playing when the stars aren't in the ice DO matter. Just as coaching is suddenly the most important thing. Weird how things shift.

Someone should probably mention that having elite star players is the fastest path to having a deep team.

 

[Chinatown88]

Good call. Hard left into Tom & Jerry. Turn into the slide.

 

[Tripod]

That’s not true. He’d rather have Barkov. A totally defensible position. He has 66 points, McDavid has 60 goals. Close enough.

I have seen this mentioned a few times. Did Torts actually say that?

 

[kudymen]

They said the collective judgement of GMs cannot be wrong. That's the definition of infallible. Learn words and how they work.

I like how a person who was on here for less than a year lectures you about the word "never" on this board.

 

[Rebels57]

I have seen this mentioned a few times. Did Torts actually say that?

Yeah he said it back in 2021

 

[Lara Emily]

The black hole for them is a goalie. I wonder where they could find a borderline elite goalie that fits their timeline of winning now and later. Hmmmm

Yeah but hear me out

What if 5 years of Jack Campbell

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Sucks the league has robbed USA Hockey of icing possibly one of their best ever rosters in recent years in best on best international play.

yah but how many useless hits along the boards away from the puck has he dealt ?

scoring goals/winning games isnt how championships are won..
oh wait..

 

[DancingPanther]

Yeah but hear me out

What if 5 years of Jack Campbell

I'll take him with no retention for an extra first in the Hart trade

 

[Beef Invictus]

I have seen this mentioned a few times. Did Torts actually say that?

He did.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Yeah he said it back in 2021

I like Barkov, but number one? Ludicrous

 

[deadhead]

You've spent at least 8 years telling me to stop obsessing over depth pieces as the Flyers loaded 12 Minutes out of every game into the wood chipper.

Why worry about the 4th line when you can't field a decent 2nd line?
Or do you miss Filppula?

 

[Lara Emily]

Bettman: NHL to evaluate Pride nights in offseason after some players refuse to wear jerseys

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says the league will evaluate its Pride nights in the offseason after several players have refused to wear Pride-themed jerseys this season.

ottawa.ctvnews.ca

Lmao

"This is the first time we've experienced that, and I think it's something that we're going to have to evaluate in the offseason,"

"This is one issue where players for a variety of reasons may not feel comfortable wearing the uniform as a form of endorsement

"But I think that's become more of a distraction now, because the substance of what our teams and we have been doing and stand for is really being pushed to the side for what is a handful of players basically have made personal decisions, and you have to respect that as well."

What a bitch.

Too bad us Queer Folk weren't Arizona! He'd be fighting for us then guaranteed

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I’m coming across this on my twitter feed right around the time im listening to the new STG podcast & Therien is ranting about Florida suggesting Tkachuk is just putting up stats on a bad team but not actually playing well.