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RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 6

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HeadLiceHatty said:
I don’t think he’s putting Bedard to shame, pretty sure they’re 1a 1b from the draft so far. Bedard needs to be moved perm to wing. ALSO excited for Demidov next year, Montreal suddenly has the best young core in the league imo
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Maybe playing under Torts has been good for Michkov. I'm seeing such a growth curve with him, at both ends of the ice. He's figuring out the NHL game now, after month of peaks and valleys in a new league and a new culture.

Bedard just... hasn't improved much? He's still crazy skilled, but there's no jam to his game. He's neither super explosive nor particularly smart. I think he's been given too many liberties in Chicago.
 
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Fantomas said:
Maybe playing under Torts has been good for Michkov. I'm seeing such a growth curve with him, at both ends of the ice. He's figuring out the NHL game now, after month of peaks and valleys in a new league and a new culture.

Bedard just... hasn't improved much? He's still crazy skilled, but there's no jam to his game. He's neither super explosive nor particularly smart. I think he's been given too many liberties in Chicago.
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I mean... He's never been explosive though.

People hated hearing it but Bedard has always been a Stamkos/Tavares tier of prospect.
 
Just Linda said:
I mean... He's never been explosive though.

People hated hearing it but Bedard has always been a Stamkos/Tavares tier of prospect.
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I think he might become what we thought Stamkos would be, except Stamkos ahd elite speed before his injury and transformed himself, Bedards skillset in more JT like exceptional hand skills but so so skating but Bedards is better than JT IMO.

Stamkos in his first 5 years was tied with Ovi for NHL goals and was 4th in points.

That's a really good prospect straight out of the draft then injury hit.
 
Bedard needs a couple of smart and skilled linemates, maybe even one, but really smart and skilled. With his shot if he gets someone who can score and pass (like, say, Demidov), he'll put a lot of pucks in the net.
 
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NatusVincere said:
That says more about Svechnikov than Michkov. OT but Svechs development is such a disappointment. 2018 2nd rounder Marchenko outplaying and outscoring him is just the cherry on the top. He had 61 points in 68 games as a 19/20 year old.
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The way Michkov has been having to figure out usage, scratches, walking on thin ice is crazy as a rookie. Svech is an awesome player but if you know puck and watch both players they’re in diff classes when it comes to talent. Although I have to agree Svech should be way better rn.

Kshahdoo said:
Bedard needs a couple of smart and skilled linemates, maybe even one, but really smart and skilled. With his shot if he gets someone who can score and pass (like, say, Demidov), he'll put a lot of pucks in the net.
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Yeah as far as I’m concerned regardless of the ups and downs and hot takes for 3-4 years now it’s been 1a 1b Bedard Michkov it always was. And it still is, would really like to see one of them separate but rn it’s dead even tbh
 
Kshahdoo said:
Bedard needs a couple of smart and skilled linemates, maybe even one, but really smart and skilled. With his shot if he gets someone who can score and pass (like, say, Demidov), he'll put a lot of pucks in the net.
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Thinks it’s unfair to put one infront of the other, I think they’re extremely similar in raw talent, but extremely different players. Both are top 5 point talents eventually. Originally I had Bedard ahead but right now they’re nearly neck and neck I think, just my opinion.
 
I think Celebrini could quite possibly be the best rookie of the decade, the kid is outstanding. But I think a lot of guys here forget how great of prospect Michkov was. He’s literally the most sure fire 100 point guy I can remember in the actually don’t even know. The guy is really unreal, he will be the next Kucherov. Wait for it. Playing under torts has hindered him some but hockey fans will and already are starting to see what he can be.
 
Kshahdoo said:
Bedard needs a couple of smart and skilled linemates, maybe even one, but really smart and skilled. With his shot if he gets someone who can score and pass (like, say, Demidov), he'll put a lot of pucks in the net.
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Teräväinen was supposed to be this guy? I think they played ok for first games.
 
ViD said:
Under 14 minutes and that horrific defensive blunder in OT

Yeah, he’s not getting much more ice time next game
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Meh, it’s OT. It’s its own little game. If he is punished for that then I’ll finally be on the fire torts bus
 
wetcoast said:
I think he might become what we thought Stamkos would be, except Stamkos ahd elite speed before his injury and transformed himself, Bedards skillset in more JT like exceptional hand skills but so so skating but Bedards is better than JT IMO.

Stamkos in his first 5 years was tied with Ovi for NHL goals and was 4th in points.

That's a really good prospect straight out of the draft then injury hit.
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Stamkos also spent time with Martin St Louis.
 
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