Miscellaneous NHL Discussion LXXXVII: What An Ugly Number

[Curufinwe]

The funny thing about those clips is that I remembered Risto having a terrible game against Detroit where he gifted them two goals early on, but that was actually a different game.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[flyersnorth]

So he's being extended two years ahead of his current contract's expiry?

 

[Curufinwe]

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

He’s mad because he signed Benning & Seguin to big money/term UFA deals & now these guys aren’t living up to it as they enter their age 30+ seasons.

Robertson is literally a guy you try to lock in long term now to get his most fruitful seasons under contract.

It’s amazing the people that run this game still don’t understand the age curve.

 

[BigToe]

He’s mad because he signed Benning & Seguin to big money/term UFA deals & now these guys aren’t living up to it as they enter their age 30+ seasons.

Robertson is literally a guy you try to lock in long term now to get his most fruitful seasons under contract.

It’s amazing the people that run this game still don’t understand the age curve.

Was about to post this. Blows my mind.

 

[Magua]

He’s mad because he signed Benning & Seguin to big money/term UFA deals & now these guys aren’t living up to it as they enter their age 30+ seasons.

Robertson is literally a guy you try to lock in long term now to get his most fruitful seasons under contract.

It’s amazing the people that run this game still don’t understand the age curve.

“These meddling kids like Robertson are preventing me from signing MORE bad contracts to 30+ support players! Grumble grumble!”

Can’t believe this doofus is giddy about writing those checks.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Big risk by Buffalo imo.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Tage Thompson getting the Kevin Hayes contract is not something I thought I'd be reading today.

Super risky, that one, but he's already blown Kev's most productive season out of the water. The question is whether it's repeatable.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

“These meddling kids like Robertson are preventing me from signing MORE bad contracts to 30+ support players! Grumble grumble!”

Can’t believe this doofus is giddy about writing those checks.

Robertson is literally the type of player you invest into like that. Already a PPG player at 23 years old with the strong underlying numbers to back it up. Lock him up now until like his early 30’s.

 

[Flyerfan18]

He’s mad because he signed Benning & Seguin to big money/term UFA deals & now these guys aren’t living up to it as they enter their age 30+ seasons.

Robertson is literally a guy you try to lock in long term now to get his most fruitful seasons under contract.

It’s amazing the people that run this game still don’t understand the age curve.

Ahh the irony that most who agree with paying youth are still livid Chuck moved on from Giroux.

Although I think if the truth ever comes out Giroux just made a personal choice to go home to raise his family.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Ahh the irony that most who agree with paying youth are still livid Chuck moved on from Giroux.

Although I think if the truth ever comes out Giroux just made a personal choice to go home to raise his family.

Giroux is still a top line player at 34 years old. I don’t care that they walked away because there’s nothing to salvage here anymore but for a team that has mindset of being competitive it makes no sense in their lack of interest.

 

[Magua]

I just want to say: I’m proud to be a fan of a team that doesn’t give the stars the money, that doesn’t neglect to pay the veterans who don’t score, that doesn’t have anyone who can put up 40 goals in the 3rd year of their ELC.

It ain’t much, but it’s honest work.

 

[Beef Invictus]

He’s mad because he signed Benning & Seguin to big money/term UFA deals & now these guys aren’t living up to it as they enter their age 30+ seasons.

Robertson is literally a guy you try to lock in long term now to get his most fruitful seasons under contract.

It’s amazing the people that run this game still don’t understand the age curve.

They're actually getting paid less overall than they were several years ago. In terms of cap percentage. The league has mostly realized that sinking all your cap into a few stars is meaningless if you can't build the depth. If anything it's the middle of the road players who are now overpaid.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Ahh the irony that most who agree with paying youth are still livid Chuck moved on from Giroux.

Although I think if the truth ever comes out Giroux just made a personal choice to go home to raise his family.

Why are you whining

 

[Deadpool8812]

Ahh the irony that most who agree with paying youth are still livid Chuck moved on from Giroux.

Although I think if the truth ever comes out Giroux just made a personal choice to go home to raise his family.

From all reports, Giroux wanted to stay, but Fletcher didn't want him because he believes players like Hayes, Ristolainen, TDA, etc are more important

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

They're actually getting paid less overall than they were several years ago. In terms of cap percentage. The league has mostly realized that sinking all your cap into a few stars is meaningless if you can't build the depth. If anything it's the middle of the road players who are now overpaid.

Most GM’s in this league are horrible at finding value in the less obvious spots (ours included lol). They hate turning over the roster so they don’t treat most of it as replaceable like they should. So they’ll give mid to low tier players crazy money & term when they hit UFA status that these players never really live up to.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Giroux is still a top line player at 34 years old. I don’t care that they walked away because there’s nothing to salvage here anymore but for a team that has mindset of being competitive it makes no sense in their lack of interest.

It just shows how clueless the organization is. I have no problem with walking from Giroux, but I do have an issue with the way it went down, and how Fletcher decided to basically give Giroux's money to a player like Ristolainen.

 

[renberg]

Maybe the ins and outs of the Giroux situation will see the light of day. I know that Patrice Bergeron wanted to play on with the Bruins and both sides found a way to work it out. For whatever reason that didn’t happen here. Question: Do you believe that Giroux would have accepted the deal that Bergeron did or one close to it? IDK.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

It just shows how clueless the organization is. I have no problem with walking from Giroux, but I do have an issue with the way it went down, and how Fletcher decided to basically give Giroux's money to a player like Ristolainen.

it basicly sums up Fletchs GMing ability...

total bottom...

 

[flyerslducks]

Maybe the ins and outs of the Giroux situation will see the light of day. I know that Patrice Bergeron wanted to play on with the Bruins and both sides found a way to work it out. For whatever reason that didn’t happen here. Question: Do you believe that Giroux would have accepted the deal that Bergeron did or one close to it? IDK.

if we were a competitive team, 100% he would've. .

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

They're actually getting paid less overall than they were several years ago. In terms of cap percentage. The league has mostly realized that sinking all your cap into a few stars is meaningless if you can't build the depth. If anything it's the middle of the road players who are now overpaid.

Teams often get these top players to take less so they can invest it into the mid to low tier of the roster & it rarely works out. McDavid for example should have taken that $14M+ that was initially offered.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Teams often get these top players to take less so they can invest it into the mid to low tier of the roster & it rarely works out. McDavid for example should have taken that $14M+ that was initially offered.

Instead of being unable to really fill out the roster with max quality because they sank dough into a star or two, they're unable to fill out the roster because they sank the savings on the stars onto some mid-level guys with far less impact anyway.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Maybe the ins and outs of the Giroux situation will see the light of day. I know that Patrice Bergeron wanted to play on with the Bruins and both sides found a way to work it out. For whatever reason that didn’t happen here. Question: Do you believe that Giroux would have accepted the deal that Bergeron did or one close to it? IDK.

I don't think Giroux can sign an incentive based contract, but you can't tell me Giroux wouldn't have signed a friendly deal to re-sign here

 

[Deadpool8812]

if we were a competitive team, 100% he would've. .

If the reports are true, Giroux wanted to come back at the TDL. He told Fletcher, but Fletcher didn't want him back, so we had to settled for the crap package we got from FLA for him.