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I'm also citing NHL players, as well as a tangible recent result. Your citation is largely media narrative building.
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I'm also citing NHL players, as well as a tangible recent result. Your citation is largely media narrative building.
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It has everything to do with the media. They're the greatest sellers of the false narrative. The league's own PR pushes it annually. It helps sell the product. It's a glorified marketing ploy, nothing more.
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People are way too easily brainwashed by hockey cliches.
The Captain isn't any more deserving of praise or blame than anyone else for wins or losses.
The Captain doesn't have to be the biggest or main leader on the team.
The Captaincy makes no difference when it comes to any of the things that matter.
Wearing the C means f*** all past "this is who we want to the face of the team" for marketing purposes.
Giroux wore it because he was their young, exciting, elite, franchise player. The perfect guy to make the face of the team.
Maybe he was also a good leader at the time, but he was probably behind other vets on the team as far as "leadership" goes during the first years he wore it, since he was still young at only 25 years old and at that point we still had vet guys like Hartnell, Briere, and Timonen too.
It wouldn't have made any difference to the team's or any individual's performance if any one of those four wore the C, since it really means nothing at all when it comes to what happens on the ice or in the locker room.
The only reason people get worked up about the idea of Hayes being named captain is because him being the face of the team, even if only for marketing purposes, is hilariously embarrassing, not because it'd actually make any difference on the ice or for the teams future.
The Captain isn't any more deserving of praise or blame than anyone else for wins or losses.
The Captain doesn't have to be the biggest or main leader on the team.
The Captaincy makes no difference when it comes to any of the things that matter.
Wearing the C means f*** all past "this is who we want to the face of the team" for marketing purposes.
Giroux wore it because he was their young, exciting, elite, franchise player. The perfect guy to make the face of the team.
Maybe he was also a good leader at the time, but he was probably behind other vets on the team as far as "leadership" goes during the first years he wore it, since he was still young at only 25 years old and at that point we still had vet guys like Hartnell, Briere, and Timonen too.
It wouldn't have made any difference to the team's or any individual's performance if any one of those four wore the C, since it really means nothing at all when it comes to what happens on the ice or in the locker room.
The only reason people get worked up about the idea of Hayes being named captain is because him being the face of the team, even if only for marketing purposes, is hilariously embarrassing, not because it'd actually make any difference on the ice or for the teams future.
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TB or Colorado could have rotated the C through the whole roster, changing the C between every period, and it wouldn't have impacted any of their seasons in any way.
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Captain shares no responsibility for the constant slow starts and the team being unprepared. Just the face of the franchise. Not deserving of praise or blame in any way.
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Laughton will be the next captain, so don’t fret over Hayes.
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The guy who wears the C may not always be the best leader on the team (Simmonds was probably the Flyers’ best leader) but, as I said, leadership is important in all walks of life, & team sports is no exception.
To act like “leadership” is a figment of people’s imagination is a joke. The world is replete with examples where companies, teams, armies, & nations fell apart when a poor, unrespected leader took the helm, & where they rose to success when a strong, respected leader was in command.
To act like “leadership” is a figment of people’s imagination is a joke. The world is replete with examples where companies, teams, armies, & nations fell apart when a poor, unrespected leader took the helm, & where they rose to success when a strong, respected leader was in command.
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Pff well with an attitude like that you know what he's never getting? The C
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No, he does not. The GM and coaches do. It's not the captain's job to get the team ready for games, that's on coaches.
You could give the C to any other player on the roster and nothing changes.
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If only someone else wore that tiny piece of stitching on their jersey, everyone on the team would have been more skilled, a faster skater, and more intelligent!
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I’m guess Kadri, a cap dump trade, & some RFA signings.
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Maybe for your roller hockey team. So in other words a captain plays no role at all except face of the franchise. Got it.
Is that what was said?If only someone else wore that tiny piece of stitching on their jersey, everyone on the team would have been more skilled, a faster skater, and more intelligent!
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Actually, I think your idea of a captain is more real in unorganized roller hockey at the Y where someone has to take charge than it is in the NHL, where many people are taking charge from top to bottom.
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You are correct. Former players are wrong. What do they know. Captain does nothing. No responsibility at all.
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Meltzer has been pushing the Laughton captain narrative hard. I didn’t pull that out my ass. I’m not saying it won’t probably be Couturier, but if you think Laughton isn’t a real possibility, you’re not paying enough attention.
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I'm going off what former players said. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand there.
Do you think TB doesn't win two Cups if they have a different captain? Do you think they win 3 Cups if they have a different captain? Do you think Michael Leighton is motivated to make some basic saves if Timonen is captain?
Do you think Colorado would be bad if they had a different captain?
Captain's do have responsibility though; they can talk to refs. That's pretty much it.
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some sads...the world isn't fair, that's for sure
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