Miscellaneous NHL Discussion LXXXV: Halfway to Christmas

[Ghosts Beer]

Not an overpayment by L.A.

Unless Brock Faber Scissors is some kind of stud NHL D in the making, which I doubt.

 

[Curufinwe]

Comparing the contract of an RFA (who also cost a 1st and a decent prospect) just signed today to a UFA signed three years ago is a pretty weak burn.

 

[Magua]

An RFA with 1 year left and no contract is for all intents and purposes a UFA. This isn't a 2nd contract buying up 4 RFA years. It's no different than Trouba. No team wants to qualify a player right to UFA because it's a value death sentence, so both parties find something that works. If Fiala didn't want to sign long-term in LA, LA doesn't make the trade. Dress it up how you want with technicalities, it's a UFA contract.

The cap went up $1 mil in 3 years. That's really not even relevant.

 

[Tripod]

Mike J on TSN....Flyers are ready to offer Gaudreau a MONSTER deal if he becomes a UFA. They don't have the cap space, but will do what needs to be done to get it.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Just another trade showcasing how bad that Risto trade was.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Faber may not even have to change apartments when he graduates.

Good trade for LA.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Not a bad trade for Minnesota given the buyouts of Parise & Suter essentially crippled them for these upcoming years.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Interesting talk on NHL Xm. Florida don’t want Giroux going forward and suggesting he signs with Avs to replace Kadri as 2C.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Mike J on TSN....Flyers are ready to offer Gaudreau a MONSTER deal if he becomes a UFA. They don't have the cap space, but will do what needs to be done to get it.

JG to the Flyers is a popular rumor spin. I still am not seeing it. The Flyers may offer a huge deal but why does he come here? Not happening

 

[Lindberg]

Interesting talk on NHL Xm. Florida don’t want Giroux going forward and suggesting he signs with Avs to replace Kadri as 2C.

If Giroux has any sense that is where he should go and he should try and sign cheap if he wants to win. (cheaper with a nmc?)

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Chinatown88]

Just another trade showcasing how bad that Risto trade was.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

I appreciate that they didn't f*** around and they got something done.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Meanwhile Chuck is thinking to himself “to get him (Gaudreau) we need to trade three guys. It’s a perfect fit.”

 

[GKJ]

I doubt Gaudreau would reject the Flyers out of hand. But it would be hilarious what happens in Voorhees if he doesn't sign here.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Meanwhile Chuck is thinking to himself “to get him (Gaudreau) we need to trade three guys. It’s a perfect fit.”

Chuck & Co. would put out messaging that it was the previous GM’s fault if he had a situation like Guerin.

 

[GKJ]

In all seriousness, and here's where the stuff with the Florida pick comes in, if you're a team with aspirations, would you trade JVR and a 1st for Gaudreau? That's the scope they're looking through.

 

[Flyerfan18]

If Giroux has any sense that is where he should go and he should try and sign cheap if he wants to win. (cheaper with a nmc?)

Giroux is nuts if he signs anywhere off the East Coast. He will just shorten his career. Stay in the East where you travel less and spend most nights in your own bed.

 

[bennysflyers16]

If Giroux has any sense that is where he should go and he should try and sign cheap if he wants to win. (cheaper with a nmc?)

Yup. Over 80 mill in earning , go win.

Or sign a bunch of 1 year deals with Sens and go at the TDL every year.

 

[landsbergfan]

Cease and desist inbound. Trash list btw

 

[Magua]

Does anyone think JVR + 2024 FLA 1st is a terrible move for Gaudreau, without context? Gaudreau is a legitimately elite player to everyone but a Grateful Dead lover. I think the context of being the 4th worst team, with no other elite talents, signing another soon to be 30+ long term contract is the vital context. This isn't a borderline contender trading a 1st for a cap dump; it's a borderline dead last team. The context is also Fletcher's dog shit cap management. I don't believe for one second this team sniffs the playoffs without Gaudreau. He changes the calculus, but to what? 1st round maybe? Win? Exit? And that's in the front half.

Also, it needs to be said, if Gaudreau only wants to come here for a MONSTER deal (the most $ of any offer?), then the hometown thing comes off hollow. Maybe Chuck will even trade a 5th rounder for his rights. I'll still believe him signing here when I see it, especially with Tortorella's hiring. He'd be begging to reduce his production by 30 points.

 

[Starat327]

Does anyone think JVR + 2024 FLA 1st is a bad move for Gaudreau, without context? Gaudreau is a legitimately elite player to everyone but a Grateful Dead lover. I think the context of being the 4th worst team, with no other elite talents, signing another soon to be 30+ long term contract is the vital context. I don't believe for one second this team sniffs the playoffs without Gaudreau. He changes the calculus, but to what? 1st round? Win? Exit? And that's in the front half.

Also, it needs to be said, if Gaudreau only wants to come here for a MONSTER deal (the most $ of any offer?), then the hometown thing comes off hollow. Maybe Chuck will even trade a 5th rounder for his rights. I'll still believe him signing here when I see it, especially with Tortorella's hiring. He'd be begging to reduce his production by 30 points.

In fairness, once he bends Fletch over for 7x11.5, he wont care about his production.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

I don't want to hate Johnny G, when he's unable to play at a high level and making stupid money and there's no way out for us, although I do really like him, but unless he came here on a huge discount, like 7.5 it won't be worth it for us, with the roster we have

 

[Ghosts Beer]

LOL. If Chuck said what Guerin said today, the board would be roasting him for not waiting & trying to “drive up value” for Fiala.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

An RFA with 1 year left and no contract is for all intents and purposes a UFA. This isn't a 2nd contract buying up 4 RFA years. It's no different than Trouba. No team wants to qualify a player right to UFA because it's a value death sentence, so both parties find something that works. If Fiala didn't want to sign long-term in LA, LA doesn't make the trade. Dress it up how you want with technicalities, it's a UFA contract.

The cap went up $1 mil in 3 years. That's really not even relevant.

He's right thought it was a weak burn, compared to this anyways.