Miscellaneous NHL Discussion LXXXV: Halfway to Christmas

[Beef Invictus]

The AHL stats merely demonstrate that MacEwen had shown some ability to score at lower levels, one thing you never know for sure is whether it will translate - watching MacEwen, he struggled to finish plays, but sometimes that's lack of skill, sometimes that's just lack of experience (young players rush scoring chances) - and often the only way to find out is to play the kid.

MacEwen put up those numbers at 21/22 years old, he's the same age as NAK.
NAK went 72g 18-28 46, and 39g 12-9 21 at the same age in the AHL.

Neither is a player I'd envision in a role other than a 4th line forechecking guy.
NAK has better offensive skills but he's still a stiff skater with limited vision. And a motor that runs hot and cold.
MacEnew is bigger and a tad more physical but not as good of a skater.
I'd take NAK over MacEwen, but wouldn't lose sleep over losing either of them.
Both are guys I'd be looking to upgrade each season.

But you used the stats wrong.

It's been explained to you countless ways that flat comparisons between two players on different teams with zero effort to control for a huge array of context is completely useless.

 

[Curufinwe]

Friedman says Forsberg is looking for 8 x $8.5m in Nashville.

 

[FLYguy3911]

 

[deadhead]

But you used the stats wrong.

It's been explained to you countless ways that flat comparisons between two players on different teams with zero effort to control for a huge array of context is completely useless.

And you are being obtuse.

The point of those stats was simply to show that MacEwen was productive offensively in the AHL, at a similar level to NAK, so that it wasn't unreasonable to see if he could translate that to a 4th line role in the NHL.

Nor did they cut NAK, they simply waived him, had he not been claimed, he would have gotten another shot to show he belonged.
He had zero trade value, and limited future value as a pending RFA.

Now I would have sat MacEwen at some point to give Hodgson a longer cameo, to at least see if he could hold his own and was a viable candidate for an injury call-up role in the future.

But I consider all these kinds of players fungible.

 

[Beef Invictus]

And you are being obtuse.

The point of those stats was simply to show that MacEwen was productive offensively in the AHL, at a similar level to NAK, so that it wasn't unreasonable to see if he could translate that to a 4th line role in the NHL.

Nor did they cut NAK, they simply waived him, had he not been claimed, he would have gotten another shot to show he belonged.
He had zero trade value, and limited future value as a pending RFA.

Now I would have sat MacEwen at some point to give Hodgson a longer cameo, to at least see if he could hold his own and was a viable candidate for an injury call-up role in the future.

But I consider all these kinds of players fungible.

I'm not being obtuse. Your stats doing say anything worthwhile for this kind of direct comparison. Context is everything.

 

[FLYguy3911]

This league.

 

[deadhead]

Round up the usual suspects.

 

[kudymen]

He is in the Brad Shaw thread.

 

[Starat327]

This league.

God this league sucks.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

10;00am and not angry yet? Read the comments to this:

here it comes... 2 year extension with a raise..

 

[GKJ]

I don’t get why Farabee being out to start the season affects what they’d otherwise do with Lindblom but I hope that it did because I think he is a Torts kind of guy.

 

[deadhead]

If they were gung-ho over MacEwen, they could have signed him weeks ago.
Right now it's Ratcliffe, Laughton/Lindblom, Allison and Laczynski on the 4th line. Ratcliffe has to clear waivers.

Brown, Willman, Hodgson and Sandin as injury call-ups. Adding MacEwen to this group is a ho hum move. He's a proven AHL scorer, so if they don't bring back a couple AHL veterans he'd fit right in on a two-way deal.
Though this would make LHV top heavy at RW.

Brink, Foerster, Wisdom, Desnoyers and Lycksell are headed to LHV right now, but that can change in TC.
I think they want these guys to push for a top 9 spot or play big minutes in the AHL, not play 8 minutes a night in the NHL.
The first four are 21, 20, 20, 20 and Lycksell is making the transition to NA hockey.

 

[Winston Wolf]

Ratcliffe would clear waivers if there were 60 teams in the league.

 

[tictactoe]

I hope Gaudreau signs that 8 years $9.5 million per season deal with Flames. I have a feeling Fletcher is ready to pay 11.

 

[landsbergfan]

 

[ellja3]

Where's Hayes?

I skipped him in 0.1s with a small giggle while going thru the list in EliteProspects site.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

This might be the most absurd thing I’ve ever seen…

 

[deadhead]

This might be the most absurd thing I’ve ever seen…

Depends what they're doing with the proceeds.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Depends what they're doing with the proceeds.

There’s no explicit mention of it going towards charity from my current understanding.

 

[BiggE]

This league.

Job for life is the NHL’s motto.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Depends what they're doing with the proceeds.

It's MLSE, which is made up of Bell and Rogers, the same two billion dollar companies that took covid relief money from the government to make sure their big wigs got their money and then proceeded to lay off a bunch of workers

 

[TB87]

Why do “Hockey Men” think Deslauriers is good? I don’t get it. There’s nothing in his scoring profile, shot-based metrics profile, or GAR profile that indicates this a player who can be a useful bottom 6 FWD. Hits and face-punching?

***Per 32 Thoughts***

***EvolvingHockey Players Card from the last 3 seasons***

***EvolvingHockey EV RAPM 2019-2022***

***5v5 Scoring Rate Stats 2019-2020, 2020-2021, 2021-2022, and 2019-2022***

Am I missing the magical intangibles he possesses or something? I’ve never watched a game of his and thought: “Gosh, I hope my team would have a guy (bad player) like this!”


I can’t go over how weird this quote is guys, “The markets hot for the tough forward.”

 

[sabremike]

Wrong Rick.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

So Tampa dumps the contract essentially.