Minnesota Wild General Discussion - 2022-23

[Bdub]

How do you manage to bring Fleury into every conversation? Did he chop Ek in the leg?

Cause you know damn well Crappie man is gonna start game 1 and 2. SMH this team is already f***ed in round one, unless rossi plays 30 mins night on both ends of the ice standing on his head on the bench we still get beat 4-1

Start dumba 1c

If i was EK id ask for trade asap! Dude gets used up in south minnesota.

 

[NHL1674]

Cause you know damn well Crappie man is gonna start game 1 and 2. SMH this team is already f***ed in round one, unless rossi plays 30 mins night on both ends of the ice standing on his head on the bench we still get beat 4-1

Start dumba 1c

If i was EK id ask for trade asap! Dude gets used up in south minnesota.

 

[Bdub]

Lets talk about 97's contract. Do you think he wants to sign here?

 

[Sad People]

Flower is not starting Game 1 lol

 

[f7ben]

Flower is not starting Game 1 lol

Yes he is

 

[Minnewildsota]

Yes he is

What's this week's lottery numbers? You seem to know the future.

 

[Sad People]

Youre being naive if you think Flower is starting game 1. Were in this position today because of Gus bus and his play. If by some crazy out there universe he does ive lost all faith in this coaching staff.

 

[f7ben]

Youre being naive if you think Flower is starting game 1. Were in this position today because of Gus bus and his play. If by some crazy out there universe he does ive lost all faith in this coaching staff.

So exactly like last year when Talbot had wildly outplayed Fluery and we still got Fluery.

What's this week's lottery numbers? You seem to know the future.

Kreskin7ben

 

[Sad People]

So exactly like last year when Talbot had wildly outplayed Fluery and we still got Fluery.

lol I knew this was coming from you. Theres no way you can compare the way Gus has played for us this year to the way Talbot played for us last year.

 

[f7ben]

lol I knew this was coming from you. Theres no way you can compare the way Gus has played for us this year to the way Talbot played for us last year.

You certainly can compare their numbers from the date of the Fluery trade through the start of the playoffs. Talbot was on fire and Fluery was horrible. Literally terrible

 

[TaLoN]

You certainly can compare their numbers from the date of the Fluery trade through the start of the playoffs. Talbot was on fire and Fluery was horrible. Literally terrible

For what... 13 games? Not like Fleury was playing terrible in that stretch.
The Wild had to trade for Fleury for a reason though remember. Talbot was brutal most of the year.

 

[Sad People]

You certainly can compare their numbers from the date of the Fluery trade through the start of the playoffs. Talbot was on fire and Fluery was horrible. Literally terrible

Those 2 situations arent comparable for me.

This year Gus has been nothing short of outstanding for us. Hes earned the right to start the playoffs and will.

Talbot was on a nice little streak towards the end of the year last year but thats who he was and thats inconsistent. Hed play well then completely crap the bed, Same can be said for Flower. To me no goalie "earned" the right to start the playoffs so he went with the goalie who won the Vezina trophy the previous year and hope he would catch lightning in a bottle and go on a run.

Now should he of let Flower continue to start after his performances in the playoffs? Absolutely not. Dean screwed up in that department.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

We were never going to make a run. I’ll consider this season a success if Rossi scores a goal.

 

[f7ben]

We were never going to make a run. I’ll consider this season a success if Rossi scores a goal.

The season would have been a success if we drafted 8th.

 

[57special]

We were never going to make a run. I’ll consider this season a success if Rossi scores a goal.

Et tu, Brute?

 

[Arturia Pendragon]

I get the feeling Ek will be back much quicker than anticipated

 

[Sad People]

I get the feeling Ek will be back much quicker than anticipated

We can only.

 

[63firebird]

You just gotta practice a little more

one more loss it may not be that difficult.

 

[MK9]

I miss that guy….

Not really

If you're missing him, lead him a little better with your aim. You'll have an easier shot at hitting him with whatever you're throwing.

 

[BagHead]

@Sad People @f7ben

Your arguments got me curious, so let's actually compare them all.


Cam Talbot's 2022 hot streak encompassed his final 15 games of the regular season, and started on 3/8/22, which was half a month before the Wild traded for Fleury, contrary to the popular belief that Fleury kickstarted Talbot.

2022 final 15 for Talbot: 12-0-3, .920
2022 all-Wild games for Fleury: 9-2-0, .910

2023 last 15 games for Gustavsson: 9-1-5, .943
2023 last 15 games for Fleury 9-5-1, .918


My takeaway from this is that while Fleury is playing better, the gap has also grown in how much he's being outplayed in his platoon. Also, I don't know how anyone in their right mind could sit a .943 goalie in the playoffs. I would have serious reservations bout bringing Evason back if these numbers hold up and Evason doesn't start Gus.

 

[Minnewildsota]

@Sad People @f7ben

Your arguments got me curious, so let's actually compare them all.


Cam Talbot's 2022 hot streak encompassed his final 15 games of the regular season, and started on 3/8/22, which was half a month before the Wild traded for Fleury, contrary to the popular belief that Fleury kickstarted Talbot.

2022 final 15 for Talbot: 12-0-3, .920
2022 all-Wild games for Fleury: 9-2-0, .910

2023 last 15 games for Gustavsson: 9-1-5, .943
2023 last 15 games for Fleury 9-5-1, .918


My takeaway from this is that while Fleury is playing better, the gap has also grown in how much he's being outplayed in his platoon. Also, I don't know how anyone in their right mind could sit a .943 goalie in the playoffs. I would have serious reservations bout bringing Evason back if these numbers hold up and Evason doesn't start Gus.

With .918 and .910 save percentages, it's not even like Fleury is playing poorly. Likely just looks so compared to the .943 that Gus is sporting in the last 15 games.

 

[Sad People]

@Sad People @f7ben

Your arguments got me curious, so let's actually compare them all.


Cam Talbot's 2022 hot streak encompassed his final 15 games of the regular season, and started on 3/8/22, which was half a month before the Wild traded for Fleury, contrary to the popular belief that Fleury kickstarted Talbot.

2022 final 15 for Talbot: 12-0-3, .920
2022 all-Wild games for Fleury: 9-2-0, .910

2023 last 15 games for Gustavsson: 9-1-5, .943
2023 last 15 games for Fleury 9-5-1, .918


My takeaway from this is that while Fleury is playing better, the gap has also grown in how much he's being outplayed in his platoon. Also, I don't know how anyone in their right mind could sit a .943 goalie in the playoffs. I would have serious reservations bout bringing Evason back if these numbers hold up and Evason doesn't start Gus.

So you basically are confirming what i was saying,

Agreed on your last statement. I like Dean but if he goes with Flower im not going to be as strong as a supporter for him at all.

 

[NHL1674]

Honestly, the goalies are the least of our problems. If we lose a series, it'll be due to next to nothing down the middle and too many guys being passengers. Freaking out about the goalies is crazy at this point.

 

[AKL]

Honestly, the goalies are the least of our problems. If we lose a series, it'll be due to next to nothing down the middle and too many guys being passengers. Freaking out about the goalies is crazy at this point.

Yes but no.

Just because they're not the biggest problem, or even top three, doesn't mean it can't become a problem. Gus has consistently given us the better chance to win all season. Even their last 10 games, Gus is at 20 goals allowed and a .941 sv%, and Fleury is at 27 goals allowed and a .922 sv%. Just because Fleury hasn't been bad doesn't mean he deserves any kind of rotation. Remember, this a merit based system, right? Not a country club nepotism based system? At least that's what we were all told.

And if the rest of the roster is as dire a situation as you're saying, that extra .7 goals against per game and .019 sv% could be the difference between a series loss and a series win.

It's the playoffs. You play your best players. This isn't the time for ego stroking. The only time Fleury should be starting is if Gus needs a rest.

 

[Wasted Talent]

Honestly, the goalies are the least of our problems. If we lose a series, it'll be due to next to nothing down the middle and too many guys being passengers. Freaking out about the goalies is crazy at this point.

Weirdly enough, this alternating approach would have been reasonable last year when they went all-in on Fleury.