Minnesota Wild General Discussion - 2022-23

[Digitalbooya]

So, guesses for the lines?

I'll toss mine in the ring:

Kap-Hartman-Zucc
Boldy-Ek-Johansson
Sundqvist-Gaudreau-Foligno
Shaw-Dewar-Reaves
(Duhaime concussion protocol?)

Middleton-Spurgeon
Goligoski-Dumba
Merrill-Klingberg
Addison

WTF are they doing with Addison. There's no shot they sign Faber to the NHL roster.

 

[Webster]

The Swedish armed forces have sent reinforcements to the Wild

 

[Wabit]

So, guesses for the lines?

I'll toss mine in the ring:

Kap-Hartman-Zucc
Boldy-Ek-Johansson
Sundqvist-Gaudreau-Foligno
Shaw-Dewar-Reaves
(Duhaime concussion protocol?)

Middleton-Spurgeon
Goligoski-Dumba
Merrill-Klingberg
Addison

WTF are they doing with Addison. There's no shot they sign Faber to the NHL roster.

They can still sign Faber. They'll give him a cookie of a game or two while they rest the important d-men. He'll get paid the NHL salary for just being on the roster.

Spurgeon hasn't had his annual injury yet. Addison sits in the pressbox until then.

 

[Bdub]

So, guesses for the lines?

I'll toss mine in the ring:

Kap-Hartman-Zucc
Boldy-Ek-Johansson
Sundqvist-Gaudreau-Foligno
Shaw-Dewar-Reaves
(Duhaime concussion protocol?)

Middleton-Spurgeon
Goligoski-Dumba
Merrill-Klingberg
Addison

WTF are they doing with Addison. There's no shot they sign Faber to the NHL roster.

Slide Addy into Reaves spot.

 

[MNRube]

Goligoski-Dumba
Merrill-Klingberg

I hate both pairs equally, hopefully 25 is back soon

 

[Digitalbooya]

They can still sign Faber. They'll give him a cookie of a game or two while they rest the important d-men. He'll get paid the NHL salary for just being on the roster.

Spurgeon hasn't had his annual injury yet. Addison sits in the pressbox until then.

Why would they sign Faber when they have 4 NHL RD?

I hate both pairs equally,

To be fair, Goligoski should be Brodin. I don't know what to think of Klingberg. His +/- numbers are ugly the last few years.

 

[Circulartheory]

Why would they sign Faber when they have 4 NHL RD?

To be fair, Goligoski should be Brodin. I don't know what to think of Klingberg. His +/- numbers are ugly the last few years.

Maybe Klingberg can pair up with Spurgeon as well to really lean into the puckmoving style to that pair and Spurgeon is also still very good defensively to help hide the defensive warts.

 

[MNRube]

Fully healthy

Zuccarello-Hartman-Kaprizov
Boldy-JEE-Nyquist
Foligno-Gaudreau-Duhaime
Mojo-Dewar-Sundqvist
*Reaves, Shaw, Walker, Beckman, Rossi, Steel

Middleton-Spurgeon
Brodin-Dumba
Merrill-Klingberg
*Addison, Goligoski, Faber

Gus Bus
MAF

 

[Wabit]

Why would they sign Faber when they have 4 NHL RD?

To be fair, Goligoski should be Brodin. I don't know what to think of Klingberg. His +/- numbers are ugly the last few years.

Why wouldn't they?

Taking away the option of going back to college (and the option of becoming a FA after that) completely is worth a year of his ELC.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Maybe Klingberg can pair up with Spurgeon as well to really lean into the puckmoving style to that pair and Spurgeon is also still very good defensively to help hide the defensive warts.

Oooh. I like that a lot. I do feel that Middleton is playing above his element. I've grown to like him for what he is, but it would be nice to bump him down the lineup.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Oooh. I like that a lot. I do feel that Middleton is playing above his element. I've grown to like him for what he is, but it would be nice to bump him down the lineup.

Don't think either of them have played on their off-side much.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Why wouldn't they?

Taking away the option of going back to college (and the option of becoming a FA after that) completely is worth a year of his ELC.

To not burn a year of his ELC?

There's almost zero chance he goes back to college next year. Making $900,000+ next year is a much better deal regardless of if he burns a year or not.

 

[Wabit]

The more I think about it I think Freddy G moves back to Boldy's center.

Boldy and JEE have been together for 10 straight games and done nothing for scoring.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

To not burn a year of his ELC?

There's almost zero chance he goes back to college next year. Making $900,000+ next year is a much better deal regardless of if he burns a year or not.

Burning from 3 years down to 2 doesn't mean much. It would be more of an issue if it was 2 years down to 1.

The more I think about it I think Freddy G moves back to Boldy's center.

Boldy and JEE have been together for 10 straight games and done nothing for scoring.

I could see it.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Burning from 3 years down to 2 doesn't mean much. It would be more of an issue if it was 2 years down to 1.

3 fulls years of ELC is more valuable to 2 years of ELC. I don't see the upside of burning a year for a game or two unless they want him to play for Iowa and help them go on a run?

 

[Minnewildsota]

3 fulls years of ELC is more valuable to 2 years of ELC. I don't see the upside of burning a year for a game or two unless they want him to play for Iowa and help them go on a run?

Wouldn’t they sign him to an ATO for that?

 

[Prior]

3 fulls years of ELC is more valuable to 2 years of ELC. I don't see the upside of burning a year for a game or two unless they want him to play for Iowa and help them go on a run?

If Faber and his agent want a year burned, that’s what will happen. And that’s what will happen.

 

[Wabit]

To not burn a year of his ELC?

There's almost zero chance he goes back to college next year. Making $900,000+ next year is a much better deal regardless of if he burns a year or not.

Being on an ELC and playing in the AHL isn't $900k, it's around $80k. It's why Russians bail on their contracts and go back to the KHL or just don't sign unless it's guaranteed NHL time.

If he does go back to college there isn't much incentive not go FA. Burning a year next season means nothing when he'd only be on a 2 year ELC anyways.

If he's good the burned ELC year doesn't matter because he's in the NHL before it ends. If he's not good, then who cares if a year of his ELC is burned or not?

 

[Digitalbooya]

Wouldn’t they sign him to an ATO for that?

That's what I figured and it wouldn't burn a year of his ELC.

 

[Wabit]

That's what I figured and it wouldn't burn a year of his ELC.

It's not a slide year they are burning. It just puts him on par with the rest of his draft class for when the ELC ends. I can't honestly say that him playing at UM is worse, as good, or better than playing in Iowa as a 2nd/3rd pair d-man for the full season this year.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Being on an ELC and playing in the AHL isn't $900k, it's around $80k. It's why Russians bail on their contracts and go back to the KHL or just don't sign unless it's guaranteed NHL time.

If he does go back to college there isn't much incentive not go FA. Burning a year next season means nothing when he'd only be on a 2 year ELC anyways.

If he's good the burned ELC year doesn't matter because he's in the NHL before it ends. If he's not good, then who cares if a year of his ELC is burned or not?

The issue is, he fits next year. So he will very likely be on the NHL roster regardless. Remember, Dumba/Klingberg/Addison(RFA) are all free agents. Next year, the projected RD depth is Spurgeon, Addison, and? So he will get $900,000+ next.

He doesn't fit this year with the TDL moves. Unless the expectation is to have Faber or one of the RD play on their off side? I'm not sure I would expect Faber to cover guys like Klingberg.

It's not a slide year they are burning. It just puts him on par with the rest of his draft class for when the ELC ends. I can't honestly say that him playing at UM is worse, as good, or better than playing in Iowa as a 2nd/3rd pair d-man for the full season this year.

Does this mean his ELC will essentially be a 2 year deal regardless?

 

[ThatGuy22]

The issue is, he fits next year. So he will very likely be on the NHL roster regardless. Remember, Dumba/Klingberg/Addison(RFA) are all free agents. Next year, the projected RD depth is Spurgeon, Addison, and? So he will get $900,000+ next.

He doesn't fit this year with the TDL moves. Unless the expectation is to have Faber or one of the RD play on their off side? I'm not sure I would expect Faber to cover guys like Klingberg.


Does this mean his ELC will essentially be a 2 year deal regardless?

It's a 3 year ELC regardless.

At the end of the day, you can approach him about the delayed ELC. But if he wants to burn a year it's not worth the trouble and risk, however unlikely, that he return to college.

Just get him to sign.

 

[NHL1674]

 

[Digitalbooya]

It's a 3 year ELC regardless.

At the end of the day, you can approach him about the delayed ELC. But if he wants to burn a year it's not worth the trouble and risk, however unlikely, that he return to college.

Just get him to sign.

This guy is going to go back to college, turn down $900,000+ for next year, and go the free agent route?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

3 fulls years of ELC is more valuable to 2 years of ELC. I don't see the upside of burning a year for a game or two unless they want him to play for Iowa and help them go on a run?

Sure, but burning it is also the cost of doing business with most, if not all, NCAA players. It's just a thing.

I'm just more concerned with not having the ELC up until the $14M dead cap is done, which it does not seem will be an issue.