Confirmed Buy-Out [MIN] Zach Parise and Ryan Suter

[joestevens29]

Suter at 50% retention should've been tradeable, no?

Especially considering real money owed you think there is one team out there that he would've waived to go to?

Seems odd that he wasn't asked for a list of teams and Guerin didn't try trade him.

Although I guess Suter was better off getting bought out, because he'll probably make more money now.

 

[Dog]

Well with all of this dead cap, it definitely takes Minnesota out of the running on the Jack Eichel sweepstakes.

That's a good thing whoever gets him will end up forking quite a bit.

 

[rynryn]

NHL Free Agency 2012: Is Craig Leipold a Master of the Dark Arts?

Wild Owner Craig Leipold in April 2012 regarding the upcoming CBA negotiations:

"We're not making money, and that's one reason we need to fix our system. We need to fix how much we're spending right now. [The Wild's] revenues are fine. We're down a little bit in attendance, but we're up in sponsorships, we're up in TV revenue. And so the revenue that we're generating is not the issue as much as our expenses. And [the Wild's] biggest expense by far is player salaries."

Three months later he would sign Parise and Suter to identical 13 year, $98 million contracts. A few months after that the owners locked out the league, presumably because player expenses were too high.

I feel sorry for Wild fans, but I have no sympathy for the massive hit Leipold's pocketbook took in exchange for very little overall impact from these two contracts.

um but we made the playoffs most of the time...and most of that money goes right to his pocket so i don't know that it worked out poorly for him personally.

 

[Agalloch]

I can see Suter with Chicago.

 

[BigT2002]

I can see Suter with Chicago.

Detroit is my preferred guess at this point.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Sweet, sweet justice. *chefs kiss*

 

[FlameChampion]

Thats an ugly buy out.

 

[Blanick]

I mean... just wow.

 

[Bruce Granville]

The funniest part, there's actually a chance Seattle would've taken Rask over Dumba anyways

Yeah, a chance in hell.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

So the League is happy with Tampa running at an effective cap of 100M and the Wild competing with an effective cap of 68M?

What a time to be alive.

The cap was more about creating linkage between player compensation and HRR, and less about parity in the short term. The league is happy that players get 50% of HRR, and that likely trumps the "short term" hiccups which occur when outlier events occur. The MINN situation is a limited event based on these long term back-diving contracts are no longer allowed.

 

[MuckOG]

Suter at 50% retention should've been tradeable, no?

Especially considering real money owed you think there is one team out there that he would've waived to go to?

Seems odd that he wasn't asked for a list of teams and Guerin didn't try trade him.

Although I guess Suter was better off getting bought out, because he'll probably make more money now.

Yes, but then there is still the threat of getting hit with the recapture penalty if Suter decides to hang it up or the other team buys him out.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

Suter at 50% retention should've been tradeable, no?

Especially considering real money owed you think there is one team out there that he would've waived to go to?

Seems odd that he wasn't asked for a list of teams and Guerin didn't try trade him.

Although I guess Suter was better off getting bought out, because he'll probably make more money now.

The cap recapture penalties made both of them completely untradeable. The fact that rule was added after these contracts had already been signed within the rules is another matter but that is why trades were never really a valid option for either of them.

 

[Luigi Habs]

That's A LOT of dead cap. Holy crap. The Wild won't be able to be competitive in a while, unless they know of some CBA alleviations we're not aware of.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Welcome the Flyers bud

 

[Lolonegoal]

Suter come to Toronto win us a series get a statue

Most likely though going to some American team

He already went to his hometown team like how you get most of your FAs, and they just bought his ass out

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

The league doesn't care about how individual teams spend at the top or bottom of the cap, only that the revenue is split 50/50 between owners and player. The split is still in place, so yes the league is happy.

Thought the league wanted competitive balance but I guess it is another mirage like player's safety and balanced schedules?

“Our competitive balance is so extraordinary,” NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said Friday at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference in Boston.

Gary Bettman Praises NHL's 'Extraordinary' Competitive Balance - NESN.com

 

[Chardo]

That's A LOT of dead cap. Holy crap. The Wild won't be able to be competitive in a while, unless they know of some CBA alleviations we're not aware of.

They have never been competitive. Why start now.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Suters been on record wanting to stay close to home as possible. i can see Suter with the Hawks now as a replacement for Duncan Keith.

Maybe a decade ago. Now he's in his later 30's, without that many more shots at winning. This might be his last shot. Why go to Chicago now? Just to kill time? Why not just retire?

More power to him if he doesn't want to maybe get to even the 3rd rd once in his career, but he's got money to not play in Minnesota, with the chance to probably pick the contender he wants to sign a league minimum deal with.

 

[triggrman]

The cap recapture penalties made both of them completely untradeable. The fact that rule was added after these contracts had already been signed within the rules is another matter but that is why trades were never really a valid option for either of them.

The changes to the recapture penalties made last year make it not nearly as bad. In fact, it's not much more than what you guys are experiencing now.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Honestly surprised that Parise didn't go the LTIR route. He's held together (such as it is) with duck tape at this point.

He must think he has something left in the tank.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

I'm guessing Detroit for Suter and Parise on cheap prove it deals.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Detroit is my preferred guess at this point.

He'd be the perfect mentor for Mo Seider

 

[Patagonia]

AVs lose Graves in the expansion and sign Suter for less money.

 

[bsu]

Maybe a decade ago. Now he's in his later 30's, without that many more shots at winning. This might be his last shot. Why go to Chicago now? Just to kill time? Why not just retire?

More power to him if he doesn't want to maybe get to even the 3rd rd once in his career, but he's got money to not play in Minnesota, with the chance to probably pick the contender he wants to sign a league minimum deal with.

I'd assume to keep playing the game he loves, make some extra bucks and be near his family.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I'm guessing Detroit for Suter and Parise on cheap prove it deals.

Suter was going to sign with Detroit, Until Parise and Heatley screwed it up. Suter probably would've had at least one cup with Detroit. Honestly Suter would be a perfect mentor for Moritz Seider.