Confirmed Buy-Out [MIN] Zach Parise and Ryan Suter

[Lolonegoal]

I'm guessing Detroit for Suter and Parise on cheap prove it deals.

Why? Holland's the GM for Edmonton now.

 

[StateofCelly]

Sweet, sweet justice. *chefs kiss*

Because things look so great in Nashville right now too? haha

 

[banks]

Buying out Suter seems bonkers to me. I don't understand.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

The changes to the recapture penalties made last year make it not nearly as bad. In fact, it's not much more than what you guys are experiencing now.

Yes, but it also takes the timing of it completely out of the Wild’s hands, having to spend 4 years not knowing how much cap space you will have is an impossible situation for a GM with the fact that you can be hit with a 15 million cap ding at anytime. They forced it now when the team is best structured to manage the dead cap via ELCs and the GM now can structure contracts around that dead cap. Better to rip the bandaid off and have control than be at the mercy of players that you have already traded away.

 

[llamateizer]

Buying out Suter seems bonkers to me. I don't understand.

Protect Dumba

 

[SKNJD9]

Parise to the Isles might as well already be considered done.

Curious to see where Suter goes

 

[Leafs87]

They’re saving a lot of money if I’m reading it right. Only paying 833 vs a 6 mill salary this year if not bought out. Also having a ~7 cap in 2 years or whenever it is while only paying 833 isn’t bad

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Suter was going to sign with Detroit, Until Parise and Heatley screwed it up. Suter probably would've had at least one cup with Detroit. Honestly Suter would be a perfect mentor for Moritz Seider.

I think that is pretty generous.

 

[Agalloch]

AVs lose Graves in the expansion and sign Suter for less money.

Why ? COL will protect Graves.

Johnson is waiving his NMC.

 

[SKNJD9]

Because things look so great in Nashville right now too? haha

They got closer to a cup than the Wild ever did post Suter.

That duo signing was nothing but a failure for the Wild

 

[sxvnert]

Surprised he bought out both. Parise was obvious.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Why? Holland's the GM for Edmonton now.

Closest to family (besides maybe Chicago). May not be as important to them.

 

[banks]

Protect Dumba

I guess they were in a bigger bind than I thought with expansion. But I'm pretty floored.

 

[StateofCelly]

They got closer to a cup than the Wild ever did post Suter.

That duo signing was nothing but a failure for the Wild

They made the playoffs almost every year, so I wouldn't call it a failure. Maybe they will raise a banner for the buyouts? Such is the way?

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Because things look so great in Nashville right now too? haha

No, but at least we aren't The Wild!

 

[57special]

Contender, Suter still hunting for a cup, big hole on the left side, and would likely sign under market value. Match made in heaven

Suter's style of play seems made for BOS, too.

 

[Jozay]

That dead cap space in 23-26 lol

Guess they'll be rebuilding anyways, so its not a big deal.

 

[BrokenFace]

um but we made the playoffs most of the time...and most of that money goes right to his pocket so i don't know that it worked out poorly for him personally.

That's the point. Even with two of the most financially reckless contracts in the league, the Wild still easily made money for Leipold. Yet he still cried poor before giving out those contracts.

 

[MartyOwns]

just wanted to say, as a devils fan, this is hilarious. how'd that contract work out for you, f***nut?

 

[KingsFan7824]

I'd assume to keep playing the game he loves, make some extra bucks and be near his family.

Which invites yet another question. Why would Chi want to replace a 37 year old, with another 37 year old?

 

[beowulf]

Others have probably mentioned it and I ain't reading this whole thread but I am thinking the Islanders will be all over Parise as they were supposedly interested at the deadline I think it was.

 

[57special]

So the League is happy with Tampa running at an effective cap of 100M and the Wild competing with an effective cap of 68M?

What a time to be alive.

On the one hand, it's taking advantage of something that is legal to get a cap advantage. OTOH, it was taking advantage of something that was legal to get a cap advantage.

 

[StateofCelly]

No, but at least we aren't The Wild!

GREAT point!

 

[beowulf]

Which invites yet another question. Why would Chi want to replace a 37 year old, with another 37 year old?

If for a year or two on a real cheap contract might be worth it no? Suter is 36 still :p

 

[theVladiator]

Really? I think it's a great decision and am surprised more people don't see it that way.


The unfortunate factor in all of this IMO, is that it really appears as though Kaprizov has no interest in signing long term with the Wild. He probably is similar to Panarin here in that he just doesn't want to play in a small market. He wants to be in LA, or New York, or perhaps even Toronto or something.


Which sucks for Minnesota, but if thats the case then there isn't much they can do about that. They can't turn Minnesots into a big market.


So what's the solution here? Kaprizov is an RFA so they have his rights. Sign him to a short term, 2-3 year bridge deal now, buyout Parise and Suter to get over 10M in additional cap space for next season... and go allllllll in next year.

After next year, trade Kaprizov and get a massive haul for him, and tank the next 3 years. They come out on the other side then with basically 14M in freed up cap space, and very likely 2-3 Top 5 picks from the tank years as well as whatever haul of assets they get in the Karpizov trade. Not to mention they already have a pair of high end prospects in Rossi and Boldy. Rossi in particular probably has an extended road to the NHL now due to his covid issues over the last 9 months.



So they go all in for 1 year, then absolutely bottom out for 3 years. And after that they are set up amazingly well to build a contender without any bad contracts to deal with and only 1.5M in dead cap space.


I honestly love the play here for them. It's an aggressive all in push for 1 year and a clearly lined out rebuild phase immediately after.

I see two holes in this plan:

First, it's not that easy to build a strong team for one year. This is not fantasy hockey. Team building typically takes time, and from contract perspective you are limited to trading for players with 1 year remaining on a contract, and nobody is giving those away.

Second, I do not think trading Kaprizov will bring in a "haul". He would be in the last year of his contract, presumably wanting to go to specific places to play. Limited trade partners means diminished returns.