Confirmed Buy-Out [MIN] Zach Parise and Ryan Suter

[StreetHawk]

That's one way to sign Kaprizov to a big money deal...buy out your highest paid guys.

Dead cap of $12-$14 mill for 3 seasons starting in 22-23, through to 24-25 seasons. Can fit KK in this season but need to cut guys afterwards.

 

[RCPXP]

Suter and Parise, a package deal to the end.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Yeah that already failed miserably for 10 years, Both players are probably better off going out on their own.

Maybe but this sort of move makes it seem like they would still prefer to be together than apart. The Wild clearly want to protect Dumba over Suter so if they had reached the conclusion that they wanted to be apart, they could've dealt Suter somewhere for something instead of a buyout. I wouldn't expect them to sign on to separate teams.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

If I was Kaprizov, I'd bolt for the KHL right now because there's no chance the Wild are going to be able to ice a competitive roster in years 2/3/4 of this buyout. If this isn't an admitted rebuild, it's an absolute disaster.

Anyone thinking this is a rebuild aren’t paying attention, Both have internal replacements coming in on ELCs. Boldy replacing Parise and Addison/Mennell/Soucy filling in the d spot. This is less a rebuild and more of the Wild relying on their current prospect pool to fill the gaps. The team will still have as much competitive flexibility as they do today, even in years 2-4 just due to the ELCs coming in, just need the young guys to perform now.

 

[57special]

22 minutes of carrying Dumba and Spurgeon

You clearly have not been watching MN the past four years if you think that Suter was carrying Spurgeon.

 

[abo9]

Insane. God I hope somehow Montreal is more savvy trying to rid themselves of the price and Weber contracts when the time comes.

You know all those comments about staying within the "spirit" of the cba? That's what the wild are doing right now. Staying true to the cba at the expense of their future.

Geez

Price has injury issues, so I suspect that if he can't complete the contract it will be ltir, but he's performing fine for now and no cap issue

Weber apparently that's not a problem at all for Montreal? It's nashville that's more or leas on the hook at this point

 

[gstommylee]

They are getting plenty of relief. Four years of $10M in bad money plus losing Dumba? This was the best option imo

then a year of 12m then 2 years of 14m of dead weight. This was a stupid move. Paying Seattle a first and a prospect to not take dumba would been cheaper.

 

[Volica]

Suter to Tampa at league vet minimum confirmed.

 

[57special]

I loveeeee me some Suter!

Would really help out Doughty to sign him

3yrs @ $4m/yr?

worst comes to worst, you buyout his final yr if at 39 yrs old he struggles

No offense, but I think he'll want to go to a team that is ready to win a Cup now. I just hope that it isn't CO, as that would be vomit inducing for over 98% of MN hockey fans.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

I could see that. Timeline fits perfectly.

Contender, Suter still hunting for a cup, big hole on the left side, and would likely sign under market value. Match made in heaven

 

[Zach716]

10m cap relieved. Eichel @ 10m x 5. Reports that Buffalo doesn’t want to take salary back.

 

[EXTRAS]

Kaprizov cap will be lots.

 

[QJL]

Anyone thinking this is a rebuild aren’t paying attention, Both have internal replacements coming in on ELCs. Boldy replacing Parise and Addison/Mennell/Soucy filling in the d spot. This is less a rebuild and more of the Wild relying on their current prospect pool to fill the gaps. The team will still have as much competitive flexibility as they do today, even in years 2-4 just due to the ELCs coming in, just need the young guys to perform now.

Sorry, $14m+ dead cap for multiple years is a major hinderance. Having most of your team on ELCs is not going to cut it.

 

[The Merchant]

 

[Sabre the Win]

The buyout of Suter is Minnesota smacking the wound of the Oilers after that Keith trade.

Bowman must have incriminating photos on Holland.

 

[Extra Texture]

Holy COW. I always expected a buyout on these mega deals eventually, just not now, and not together.

 

[kingsfan28]

then a year of 12m then 2 years of 14m of dead weight. This was a stupid move. Paying Seattle a first and a prospect to not take dumba would been cheaper.

Yeah, I get the feeling we're about to see all kinds of crazy shit all the way up to the draft. This is the first of many.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

3 years of almost $15 million in dead cap my god

The Carl Fletcher special, no wonder he was rode out of town.

 

[johnsic]

Makes no sense at all. Both make 6m next year and 1-2m after that with cap hit 7m. If I was Ottawa or Phoenix I would have jumped to get them.

 

[GuerinUp]

So....going all in for Eichel or the beginning of a rebuild?

play him for a year, sell him healthy at ED for way more, Rebuild complete

 

[Prior]

Anyone thinking this is a rebuild aren’t paying attention, Both have internal replacements coming in on ELCs. Boldy replacing Parise and Addison/Mennell/Soucy filling in the d spot. This is less a rebuild and more of the Wild relying on their current prospect pool to fill the gaps. The team will still have as much competitive flexibility as they do today, even in years 2-4 just due to the ELCs coming in, just need the young guys to perform now.

Bingo.

A lot of talk around here last year with how much “fun” the Wild were to watch. What type of impact was Parise and Suter making on this team?

Suter will be a loss, especially early, but in years 2-4 they can mitigate what he was with what they have coming at defense and where Suter would be.

Those valuing Suter over Dumba with where his overall game is going at 26 clearly are not watching this team.

 

[KingPuckChoo]

Why would you buy out his final year when it brings no cap savings to do so? Two+ year contracts on Suter and Parise are 35+ contracts that stay on the books no matter what. Your best hope if he falls off a cliff in a new deal is if he gets injured.

yea forgot about the 35+ rule

i'd still sign him for 3 yrs

 

[Patmac40]

My god, all that dead cap. That’s going to be an interesting couple years with only a few hundred thousand dollars savings in cap hit for them to not be playing. Might be better than 39-41 year old Parise and Suter at that price but still.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

How is Minnesota planning on being competitive from 22-23 to 24-25 with dead cap in the double digits of millions?

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Is this more of a culture change issue? I ask, because I don't see it actually affording the team much flexibility to bring in talent and improve the roster. That said, I think Parise is pretty much done. Injuries have taken it's toll. I can see some team giving him a shot in a wave of nostalgia but I doubt it amounts to much. Suter on the other hand is still a legit top four d-man that if in the 18-20:00 minute range per game can be very productive. Certainly help special teams. I think teams will be lining up for him.