Confirmed Buy-Out [MIN] Zach Parise and Ryan Suter

[serp]

It was bound to happen eventually . Makes sense that this happens before the expansion draft since they don't want to protect them and both contracts had NMC's. Allow Wild to protect Dumba.

 

[gstommylee]

I don’t think people here grasp what a typical day/week/month/year looks like for Suter.

No, Seattle is most certainly not an option.

Full nmc protects the player. So if Parise still thinks he can contribute and the new team doesn’t want him anymore they can’t get rid of him.

9 years for $88 million plus buyout of the final $10 mill. Almost $95 mill for 9 years of service. $10.5 mill per season as it turns out.

eating $20 mill of front loaded contract. Can’t ice a contender when you have $12-14 mill in dead cap.

I did say could at least have asked them to waive and see if teams would take them. This is just a straight buy out and telling fans we aren't contending.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Insane. God I hope somehow Montreal is more savvy trying to rid themselves of the price and Weber contracts when the time comes.

You know all those comments about staying within the "spirit" of the cba? That's what the wild are doing right now. Staying true to the cba at the expense of their future.

Geez

 

[Lapa]

The funniest part, there's actually a decent chance Seattle would've taken Rask over Dumba anyways

Why on god's green earth would anyone pick Victor Rask over Dumba?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I loveeeee me some Suter!

Would really help out Doughty to sign him

3yrs @ $4m/yr?

worst comes to worst, you buyout his final yr if at 39 yrs old he struggles

Why would you buy out his final year when it brings no cap savings to do so? Two+ year contracts on Suter and Parise are 35+ contracts that stay on the books no matter what. Your best hope if he falls off a cliff in a new deal is if he gets injured.

 

[Prior]

From the Wild’s perspective, they were already carrying Parise’s cap hit to not play. It’s not a problem to continue to not play him, replace with an ELC 4th liner, and take his cap hit.

Suter is trickier, especially if it means they lose Soucy, but this is a team that has churned out defensive talent and has two players on the cusp with Menell and Addison. Then two more that could be on the roster on ELCs in O’Rouke and Hunt. Guessing they see these players feeding into their now top 3 and filling the void where Suter would be 2-4 years from now.

 

[rynryn]

The funniest part, there's actually a decent chance Seattle would've taken Rask over Dumba anyways

i think they would have absolutely taken Dumba then traded him or someone else for a better C than Rask.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Does Parise come with Suter?

Yeah that already failed miserably for 10 years, Both players are probably better off going out on their own.

 

[majormajor]

Someone explain to my why they bought out Suter.

There's almost no cap savings after 2021-22. It looks like they just took their #2D-man, which he still was, and decided to pay him to not play for them. He'll cost more to replace than they're saving.

I don't get the expansion consideration either. Dumba is a much more replaceable player, who they could have traded anyways.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Absolutely terrible decision by the Wild. Very little relief for extended pain. Insane.

Really? I think it's a great decision and am surprised more people don't see it that way.


The unfortunate factor in all of this IMO, is that it really appears as though Kaprizov has no interest in signing long term with the Wild. He probably is similar to Panarin here in that he just doesn't want to play in a small market. He wants to be in LA, or New York, or perhaps even Toronto or something.


Which sucks for Minnesota, but if thats the case then there isn't much they can do about that. They can't turn Minnesots into a big market.


So what's the solution here? Kaprizov is an RFA so they have his rights. Sign him to a short term, 2-3 year bridge deal now, buyout Parise and Suter to get over 10M in additional cap space for next season... and go allllllll in next year.

After next year, trade Kaprizov and get a massive haul for him, and tank the next 3 years. They come out on the other side then with basically 14M in freed up cap space, and very likely 2-3 Top 5 picks from the tank years as well as whatever haul of assets they get in the Karpizov trade. Not to mention they already have a pair of high end prospects in Rossi and Boldy. Rossi in particular probably has an extended road to the NHL now due to his covid issues over the last 9 months.



So they go all in for 1 year, then absolutely bottom out for 3 years. And after that they are set up amazingly well to build a contender without any bad contracts to deal with and only 1.5M in dead cap space.


I honestly love the play here for them. It's an aggressive all in push for 1 year and a clearly lined out rebuild phase immediately after.

 

[Reality Czech]

Should probably be noted, for everybody loling over the summer of 2012, that if expansion isn't a thing, Suter isn't bought out.

So in other words, the Wild only made one catastrophic mistake rather than two?

Crazy news today, makes me feel old that they signed those deals so long ago.

 

[Kuljeskelen]

I mean... Parise was a probable buyout, but Suter at that price? Wild must really hate franchise players. First not giving Koivu an extension at league minimum (yeah we saw he didn't work out with CBJ but still), now this.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If I was Kaprizov, I'd bolt for the KHL right now because there's no chance the Wild are going to be able to ice a competitive roster in years 2/3/4 of this buyout. If this isn't an admitted rebuild, it's an absolute disaster.

Is his KHL team going to be competitive in the NHL?

 

[TheDoldrums]

Why on god's green earth would anyone pick Viktor Rask over Dumba?

There are going to be very few centres available and he's been an analytics darling. Dumba has not been that and Seattle has hired a bunch of nerds.

 

[Agalloch]

They have played this worse than even Florida and Anaheim did in the Vegas expansion.

This is all to protect Matt dumba lol

And re-signing Fiala and Kaprisov. Both are asking 6-8m per year.

 

[57special]

Suter to Boston has got to be a lock, no?

I could see that. Timeline fits perfectly.

 

[Dellstrom]

Bidding war will be interesting for Suter. Would kill to see him and McAvoy on the same pairing.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

This is going to potentially turn out great for somebody. If Suter signs a cheap deal on a contender and doesn't care about money that's a steal.

Even Parise as a cheap bottom 6er would be nice.

 

[RickChartraw]

a veteran LD, seems like the Rangers could use one of those for a year or two.

 

[kingsfan28]

That's one way to sign Kaprizov to a big money deal...buy out your highest paid guys.

 

[krutovsdonut]

wow

 

[StreetHawk]

Insane. God I hope somehow Montreal is more savvy trying to rid themselves of the price and Weber contracts when the time comes.

You know all those comments about staying within the "spirit" of the cba? That's what the wild are doing right now. Staying true to the cba at the expense of their future.

Geez

Weber is easier because he holds no trade or movement protection. If Montreal demotes him to Laval in the A and Weber doesn’t report they can suspend him and move to terminate his contract. Basically no to minimal recapture for them but like $24 mill for Nashville.

 

[kvladimir]

If I was Kaprizov, I'd bolt for the KHL right now because there's no chance the Wild are going to be able to ice a competitive roster in years 2/3/4 of this buyout. If this isn't an admitted rebuild, it's an absolute disaster.

I was thinking along these lines, too. With all that dead cap space in year 2-4 of a hypothetical extension at ~10-11M/year, they can't compete even with Kaprizov now! This has to be a precursor to a full rebuild, right? A move to protect tradeable assets (Dumba, Kaprizov, Fiala) after the ED? Am I missing something?

 

[Theodore450]

Suter too? Wow

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

That's huge!

I expect them to score NHL deals elsewhere. My gut feeling is Parise with the Islanders and Suter takes a discount with Tampa.