They are really good at notifying the local law enforcement authorities. They ratted on Stoll too in Vegas.
It was important that he get caught with drugs, because they needed an excuse to not sign him after his contract was up anyway.
Mike Richards VI (UGH): The Armageddon Edition (MOD NOTE POST #1)
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They are really good at notifying the local law enforcement authorities. They ratted on Stoll too in Vegas.
It was important that he get caught with drugs, because they needed an excuse to not sign him after his contract was up anyway.
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Gotta give you credit for such patience with some people. Trying to explain facts over and over must get pretty tiring.
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Well Sutter is prettier then Penn, but Penn did great in "I am Sam" or whatever that movie was. It could work out.
Good to see the train wreck is still going. I'm finding myself less angry about how Richards was treated last year after knowing Stoll/Williams won't be back and there's a good chance the cap next year means Brown's being cut. Good times.
I'm still pretty shocked that we haven't heard from Richards' agent, or much from theNHLPA. Makes me think that there is so much more to the border incident. Just speculation but if this happened in MLB or The NBA I'm pretty sure the agent and union would be pretty vocal.
Me too but I put that down to the July 1st (Canada Day) to July 4th (Independence Day) period. Probably be nothing happening until at least the middle of next week and even then, we may never know since a "settlement" if there is one, can be completed without necessarily a formal grievance. Also, both sides could be waiting for the results of the RCMP investigation before deciding how to proceed. If the Mounties decide (and announce) that no charges are pending because no offence (or whatever) occurred, then I'm sure that the NHLPA will come out with all guns blazing, depending on how it makes out in prior (likely secret) consultations with the Kings.
Richards' agent would be very wise to stay silent. As for the NHLPA, they have a few weeks here to organize the beat down. They aren't in any hurry. They are going to use every last second to build their appeal. The issue at hand is too important to rush things, they need to be sure their appeal is a slam dunk.
Ziggy Stardust
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Unlike message board posters and their uninformed, uneducated opinions, it would appear wiser for them to gather facts before reacting irrationally.
You very well may be correct but in this day of twitter, tmz, 24 hour sports media you think you would have heard something by now. Weird to me that it took 10 days for the Kings to find out that the incident happened in the first place.
I still contend that if this happened in any other sport with guaranteed contracts the union, an agent and others players would have weighed in on this by now. Truly makes me think that there is so much more to this story than just bringing personal oxy across the border. Meh I could be wrong and don't want to speculate too much.
The Tikkanen
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Not to mention accrue quite a few billable hours along the way. Cha ching.
TonySCV
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All I really care about is that the Kings aren't screwed by this from a cap perspective. Richards is done as a King. He along with Stoll are footnotes in history at this point.
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I can't wait for this saga to play out on the 2016 Kings Moments DVD.
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We'd have also heard the details of the incident following the termination of his contact, not a media blackout that was thrown over it.
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Remember it's a material breach not an ethics breach
1. It could be as simple as a common clause stating players must not be in use, possession, or the sale of narcotic drugs. If breached it is automatic expulsion of contract.
2. Voynov probably did not have a clause that he should not abuse his wife. What he did was 100% unethical but not a material breach
3. This may have happened to Stoll if he was still under contract, we will never know.
4. We don't know history, we don't know if treatment has been sought in the past. Maybe treatment was refused. Until we know all facts, and know it was even the drugs we shouldn't get our panties in a knot.
1. It could be as simple as a common clause stating players must not be in use, possession, or the sale of narcotic drugs. If breached it is automatic expulsion of contract.
2. Voynov probably did not have a clause that he should not abuse his wife. What he did was 100% unethical but not a material breach
3. This may have happened to Stoll if he was still under contract, we will never know.
4. We don't know history, we don't know if treatment has been sought in the past. Maybe treatment was refused. Until we know all facts, and know it was even the drugs we shouldn't get our panties in a knot.
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Listening to 06-30-15 The Drive Hour 2 by The Drive with George Wrighster and Brett Winterble
https://player.fm/1Sjeqx
Jim Fox was on at the 22 min mark. Fascinatingly pragmatic attitude. The only thing new is how Richards left the team. The cap hit and his performance meant everyone knew he was leaving. Same regarding Stoll and Williams.
In the previous hour they were reporting that Richards was detained because he attempted to ship meds to himself with a script that didn't have his name on it. Ship, not carry.
https://player.fm/1Sjeqx
Jim Fox was on at the 22 min mark. Fascinatingly pragmatic attitude. The only thing new is how Richards left the team. The cap hit and his performance meant everyone knew he was leaving. Same regarding Stoll and Williams.
In the previous hour they were reporting that Richards was detained because he attempted to ship meds to himself with a script that didn't have his name on it. Ship, not carry.
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Interesting interview, John. Yeah, Jim Fox moves on. "I worry about the players on the team, not the players off it." Seems to think the Manchester boys who got experience winning the championship should/will be able to provide leadership to replace what Stoll and Williams gave. I don't know, it's going to be hard to replace what those 2 beauties brought to the locker room. (Intangibles)
Still not sure what makes the border incident 'icky'.
Unless previously mentioned, how did DL get this "new" information right at the perfect time during the draft? I mean, not like teams were really making moves prior to this, then during the draft when teams are making moves and 2 now have documented interest in Richie, he drops this bomb.
Not sticking up for Mike, but perhaps his camp did supply this info to DL, and he chose to try and get out from this thing free and clear.
Just a thought
Not sticking up for Mike, but perhaps his camp did supply this info to DL, and he chose to try and get out from this thing free and clear.
Just a thought
You don't know the level of integrity that makes of Dean Lombardi's personality and neither do I. But those journalists and television commentators that do know, and know him personally, have unanimously commented that they don't believe its within his personality and ethical makeup to conduct himself in such a manner, and I will take their word for it.
As far as how he particularly received the information at that very moment, no one knows. But to have to construct complex trade scenarios with two separate teams and then have to go to each of those team's GMs with his tail between his legs and tell them he can't do the deal because of the information he received is a much more believable event than the wild conspiracy that you conveyed.
Think within the temporal plane and then perhaps you will see things in a real manner. Reality rules.
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A shaky premise though at best. DL gave MR the benefit of a doubt by not using his get out of jail free buyout the season before out of loyalty to him. Take a look at how we treat our players when their contracts run out. Most of the time we try to re-sign them but many have walked after the season was over and their contracts were up. DL doesn't simply deal people away that he is loyal to, he would rather they finish up their contracts with the team and then allow both parties to make a decision on what is best for the player. I can sight you examples of how he has traded players to teams that were in or near to their hometowns regardless of their value being higher than the return that he received in order to accommodate the players wishes. Also, ask yourself this, who benefits the most from keeping that information secret? IF Dl found out prior to the draft he would have had time to try and work out what the situation was with MR and his reps and then if possible still tried to either work out a trade or simply buy him out. Instead he found out about MR's troubles while a deal was being made which left him with one of two options. First of course let the other team(s) know that the kings couldn't make a deal in good faith and cancel any trade talks and then secondly, buy MR out OR if DL and co felt that the situation merited a termination to use that option which is what they did.
Everything points to DL doing what any smart GM would do in the same situation but also what a GM who has been truly loyal to his players does when one of them tries to screw him over and that is do everything he can to move away from the situation. If this was simply a case of MR's capabilities as an NHL player declining I don't believe that DL would have sought to have MR's contract terminated. I believe that we would have either traded MR (which was in the works) or simply have bought him out which what was being reported by everyone associated with the Kings prior to the draft. I believe that what MR has done made it to where DL took the best option for the team and in the end that is what matters the most.
Unlike former dishonest GM's like Tambellini for an example DL never tried to misrepresent the player he was trying to move in order to screw over another GM. DL is honest through and through and did in each of the situations leading up to whatever happened with integrity and that is a very important thing to remember.
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It's a two way street and it's not a super kind of conspiracy theory. I like DL, respect him for what he did for Mike and how he conducts his himself but to cmon bud.
Too say this info halted trade talks is much more potent to the league then saying guess what Mike did 2 days ago.
Lastly, the timing of it all. During the draft???? A last minute phone call just like in the movies where the call comes in to death row claiming innocence right before the inmate hits the electric chair.
You can try and claim that I'm suggesting some conspiracy theory but the truth is the timing is so damn perfect, especially for such a non issue as Mike being detained, not charged. I mean seriously, how at the last minute would somebody look or find such a piece of info on draft day.
Suggesting he sat on this infom is really not a far fetched thought
No journalist or LA person would be able to call around on draft day and find such a piece of info so easily. Somebody in the LA organization had to know something soon after. Simply calling around in one day, I doubt that the Canadian government would have shot out that info with no hesitation. Just my thoughts anyway
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Even if, in a worst case scenario from the Kings' standpoint, the team had to admit it made a grievous mistake, pay Richards his full buy-out plus damages, take the ten year salary cap and have Jimmy Fox publicly apologize on the Kings' behalf, Mike Richards will never, ever be an LA King again.
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