Post-Game Talk: Mickey Mouse @ Rangers

[Machinehead]

Another take from left field. Devils are worse version of the 2019 Rangers. All offense, no defense or goaltending.

Absolute nonsense

I could explain why that's incorrect but what's the point? I'm just going to yell "jars of horseradish" and it will mean just as much to you as even strength shot metrics.

JARS OF HORSERADISH!!!!

 

[duhmetreE]

I could explain why that's incorrect but what's the point? I'm just going to yell "jars of horseradish" and it will mean just as much to you as even strength shot metrics.

JARS OF HORSERADISH!!!!

you can't explain nothing. You'll show a chart and have your wrong opinion on what it means.

 

[Chytilmania]

Well there are players that can rotate there. As Zibs did on Kreiders deflection.

True then Laf and Kakko would have to rotate to the wall where Panarin is then Panarin takes the one timers. I don't like them at the bumper, they don't really get involved.

 

[Machinehead]

you can't explain nothing. You'll show a chart and have your wrong opinion on what it means.

RAVIOLI RAVIOLI GIVE ME THE FORMUOLI!!!!

 

[McRanger92]

He is turning out to be a great MSG commenter. So smart about the game. I didn't think anyone could compete with Vally. But now,... I actually look forward more to what Hank has to say.

His insight tonight,... on how when everyone is skating, it's easier for players to know what to do away from the puck is brilliant.

When the forwards are coming back hard (skating),... it allows the D-men to step up like Schneider did laying out that guy in the neutral zone.

Henrik sees the game in a different way than us mere mortals. His insight is must watch TV.

 

[rangersfansince08]

While I agree with you, I think Gallant wants a RHS in that spot to take passes from Kreider. Hank and Vally were talking about the two different PP goals, if you cheat to Kreider then Strome is open. If you cheat to Strome than Kreider is open for the redirect. The open spot would be Panarin but obviously that's not happening so I think we'll have 4 RHS on the PP until Panarin's contract is up.
Because of Kreider we now have 4 ways to beat a team on the PP which is dangerous. Zib one timer. Kreider deflection from Panarin side of the net. Kreider deflection from Fox in front of the net. Kreider pass to Strome in slot or across the crease to Zib. The best way to defend is to pressure Fox.

Both kaako and laf are lhs?

 

[Machinehead]

Henrik sees the game in a different way than us mere mortals. His insight is must watch TV.

He's very impressive, and it must be said, so is Valiquette. Vally says very, very silly things when he editorializes but he understands the game and statistics. I always enjoy our intermission crew (shoutout to Bill as well).

It's rare for goalies to have such capability. I'm not trying to knock them, but they're so in their own world that it's hard for them to see the whole game. Hank's IQ may be a factor in how he stayed so consistent when most goalies are up and down by nature.

Shame Vally never had the talent to match his understanding of the art.

 

[duhmetreE]

True then Laf and Kakko would have to rotate to the wall where Panarin is then Panarin takes the one timers. I don't like them at the bumper, they don't really get involved.

Well that's on the unit. They need to find ways, as they did with Stromer.

The 2 PPGs we scored on were setplays that feed off of each other. There's no reason it can't be done

 

[Fitzy]

Only two of our 51 power play goals have come from defensemen this season.

Only two of our 37 power play goals last season have come from defensemen.

It's crazy to think about how the role of the defenseman on the man advantage has changed since Washington revolutionized the power play setup with a consistent 1-3-1.

The 3-2 power play, where one dman would shift own toward the half wall depending on where the puck was in the zone, used to have one pointman who was more of a playmaker (Del Zotto, Rozsival, ect) and one point guy who was the trigger man (Kotalik, Richards, etc)

That kind of setup is almost gone now. Only 6 of Makar's 24 goals this season are on the power play. It's almost a purely distributive role now.

 

[Chytilmania]

Well that's on the unit. They need to find ways, as they did with Stromer.

The 2 PPGs we scored on were setplays that feed off of each other. There's no reason it can't be done

I'm not saying it can't, just going off the post game analysis and GG's presser. Sounds like he would much rather have Strome than Copp or a LHS.

 

[Machinehead]

I'm not saying it can't, just going off the post game analysis and GG's presser. Sounds like he would much rather have Strome than Copp or a LHS.

We're in a weird setup right now where Panarin spends a lot of time dishing on his "on" wing which is very strange, but generally no skin of my nose because let's be honest, he doesn't shoot anyway and sure as hell doesn't take one-timers when he does.

In the revolutionary PP setup @Fitzy described on Washington, you had a lefty (Backstrom) in that spot passing to four righties - Green, Semin, Knuble and...some other guy. Knuble became Wilson, Green became Carlson and Semin became Oshie, but same idea. I don't know whatever happened to the other guy.

We're playing that right now, we just happen to have a RH shot in the lefty spot.

So I can understand that there may not be a sensible position for Lafreniere on that unit at the moment.

And you know what? That's fine! Just maybe don't play him with some combination of Chytil/Goodrow/Gauthier (a combined 21 goals this year!) at even strength. I will absolutely settle for that.

 

[McRanger92]

Another take from left field. Devils are worse version of the 2019 Rangers. All offense, no defense or goaltending.

Absolute nonsense

They are a dangerous team 5v5, especially with Hughes(who seems to get injured every couple months) no doubt about it, but on special teams, defense and in goal they are an atrocity

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Obviously Schneider didn't like sitting last game. LOL

Damn can this kid drop the gloves. How can you not love that? A huge Hit, his best impression of a rock'em sock'em robot, and setting up his D partner for his first in a Rangers uniform, is a pretty excellent return to action.

You can say the same for Ryan Strome too.

But I think the first star goes to our leader, who did not have a point in the game, Mika Zibanejad. If ever there was an instructional video, in how to play a 200 foot game, all you need to do is watch his game tonight. He was flawless. He has to get some votes this year for the Selke Trophy. It would be criminal if he didn't.

And as I said like ten games ago, when we still had 3 games left against the Canes,... that we had a real possibility to catch them, with our favorable schedule and head to head battles with them. We are now only 2 points behind. The Canes do have a game in hand, but we still have two games with them with 11 games left. It could go down to the wire.

I'm never disappointed in Mika's effort. He's a #1 center every night of the week, whether he's scoring or not.

 

[McRanger92]

Obviously Schneider didn't like sitting last game. LOL

Damn can this kid drop the gloves. How can you not love that? A huge Hit, his best impression of a rock'em sock'em robot, and setting up his D partner for his first in a Rangers uniform, is a pretty excellent return to action.

You can say the same for Ryan Strome too.

But I think the first star goes to our leader, who did not have a point in the game, Mika Zibanejad. If ever there was an instructional video, in how to play a 200 foot game, all you need to do is watch his game tonight. He was flawless. He has to get some votes this year for the Selke Trophy. It would be criminal if he didn't.

And as I said like ten games ago, when we still had 3 games left against the Canes,... that we had a real possibility to catch them, with our favorable schedule and head to head battles with them. We are now only 2 points behind. The Canes do have a game in hand, but we still have two games with them with 11 games left. It could go down to the wire.

For the Rangers to get to where they want to go this year, Mika needs to have a playoff run like Bergeron/O'Reilly/Kopitar. Be a force in all 3 zones. I've never been more confident that well get it. Awesome season for him and a true leader.

 

[Larrybiv]

Raise your hand if you wanted Chris Kreider traded and not extended back in 2020.

Boy were youse guys wrong!

My hand is so far down, I can touch my toes. Just knew he would be a 30 goal, I mean 40 goal......ummm, I mean 50 goal scorer someday.
Didn't You?

 

[will1066]

While I agree with you, I think Gallant wants a RHS in that spot to take passes from Kreider. Hank and Vally were talking about the two different PP goals, if you cheat to Kreider then Strome is open. If you cheat to Strome than Kreider is open for the redirect. The open spot would be Panarin but obviously that's not happening so I think we'll have 4 RHS on the PP until Panarin's contract is up.
Because of Kreider we now have 4 ways to beat a team on the PP which is dangerous. Zib one timer. Kreider deflection from Panarin side of the net. Kreider deflection from Fox in front of the net. Kreider pass to Strome in slot or across the crease to Zib. The best way to defend is to pressure Fox.

Great post. It was very evident that the PP was less effective with a 3R/2L setup with Copp. Just in the context of this 5-man unit.

 

[Fitzy]

The PP thing doesn't become an issue until next season, when I suspect Copp/Laf will be here and Strome will not.

At which point if the RHS thing is such a big deal, they might as well bring back Colin Blackwell. Drury likes his utility players. Blackwell, Copp, Goodrow give us three.

 

[DudMan28]

It looked to me like the Rangers were a team that gave up 7 goals to these guys 2 weeks ago and didn’t want to give them too much tonight. They felt pretty in control the whole night despite the lack of shots. It was a pretty low event game all around

 

[hackeyman]

Obviously Schneider didn't like sitting last game. LOL

Damn can this kid drop the gloves. How can you not love that? A huge Hit, his best impression of a rock'em sock'em robot, and setting up his D partner for his first in a Rangers uniform, is a pretty excellent return to action.

You can say the same for Ryan Strome too.

But I think the first star goes to our leader, who did not have a point in the game, Mika Zibanejad. If ever there was an instructional video, in how to play a 200 foot game, all you need to do is watch his game tonight. He was flawless. He has to get some votes this year for the Selke Trophy. It would be criminal if he didn't.

And as I said like ten games ago, when we still had 3 games left against the Canes,... that we had a real possibility to catch them, with our favorable schedule and head to head battles with them. We are now only 2 points behind. The Canes do have a game in hand, but we still have two games with them with 11 games left. It could go down to the wire.

Great post.

 

[will1066]

The PP thing doesn't become an issue until next season, when I suspect Copp/Laf will be here and Strome will not.

At which point if the RHS thing is such a big deal, they might as well bring back Colin Blackwell. Drury likes his utility players. Blackwell, Copp, Goodrow give us three.

Blackwell, by the way, is having an awesome time in Toronto. He's scoring. Well, everyone scores on that team.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

It looked to me like the Rangers were a team that gave up 7 goals to these guys 2 weeks ago and didn’t want to give them too much tonight. They felt pretty in control the whole night despite the lack of shots. It was a pretty low event game all around

100% agree with this. I understand the frustration with not blowing them out because they looked so bad but we've been playing so loose lately including a humiliating loss to the Devils just last week, it's no surprise they just basically sleepwalked through the game just trying to keep everything tight and low event after we got the lead. Pretty typical late season game vs a shit opponent that I think doesn't really need to be read in to too much.

 

[duhmetreE]

The reaction of Goodrow and Vatrano on the bench is priceless.

Schneids put the league on notice

 

[Richard Banger]

I mean, yeah, that's fine. The coach has every right to be wrong.

Just like fans don’t have every resource available painting a very different picture.

 

[Anthony5967]

Going forward starting next season, Lafreniere and Kakko need to start receiving minutes on the first PP unit. Both players will not become what everyone expects them to become playing 2nd unit PP or no PP time.

If I represented Lafreniere or Kakko, I might ask Drury to move my guy to another situation with more opportunity. My guy was the 1st or 2nd pick overall and he doesn't get a sniff of PP time, I would ask for a change of scenery. Every player needs an opportunity. DeAngelo gets himself thrown off of the team. Fox steps into minutes on PP and he ends up winning the Norris. If Tony and Georgiev don't get into a fight after the game, Fox doesn't get those minutes and he doesn't win the Norris.

If the Rangers re-sign Strome, are the Rangers running the same five on PP for the next 3-4 seasons?

The Rangers are better off signing Copp for less than Strome and freeing up a spot on first unit PP for one of their young guys. Copp can play on the 2nd unit PP. He will get his minutes on the PK.

Give one of the younger guys those minutes. It's not like they don't have talent and skill on the first unit PP.

Gallant isn't playing both Laf and Kakko on PP1 next year. Copp would take over for Strome. Looks like both will max out as 50-60 point guys, maybe, as long as they aren't playing any PP.

 

[will1066]

I imagine Ruff in his mind was yelling "Sharan!" when he attempted to be a tough guy: