lol okProve it and earn it. Don't demand special treatment.
lol okProve it and earn it. Don't demand special treatment.
They either had the talent and given a chance or worked their way in.
McG is demanding it.
"Not more damaged"...NCAA prospects do this all the time. He's not more damaged than most good American prospects drafted in the last 15 years.
He is quite a bit better of a prospect than Owen Beck, and could for sure play in the NHL right now. While I also don't think he should be assured a spot in the top 9 Montreal is one of the few teams who could almost certainly give him that right now with the way their roster is laid out."Not more damaged"...
From a Habs point of view i don't want him on the team. We have a pile of prospects in Laval fighting for spots..and this guy demanding one.
Imagine how fustrating it would be for Beck, who is his equal. Kapanen? Toiling and hoping while McG gets a pass.
He's not that special to accomodate his demands so it's a hard pass from me.
It can range from anywhere between 11 and 32. Most likely high 10’s to low 20’s as Florida lost a lot of depth this off-seasonIn pick value you assign the worst case. That 1st is very complicated and can turn turn a 26 pick easily
That’s not exactly what happened. He saw his teammates and friends get an NHL contract and play a couple regular season games. Doing so after coming from the NCAA burn a year off your ELC.Hes only signing there if they guarantee him a spot on their NHL roster.
He hasn't signed with Winnipeg because they flat out refused to gift him a roster spot, that's something you gotta earn.
I'm not sure he's that much better then Beck. Beck has come a long way but if you think so, you're entitled to that opinion.He is quite a bit better of a prospect than Owen Beck, and could for sure play in the NHL right now. While I also don't think he should be assured a spot in the top 9 Montreal is one of the few teams who could almost certainly give him that right now with the way their roster is laid out.
We also don't actually know how those conversations went, I mean Devon Levi had discussions with Buffalo coming out of college about not wanting to have his path blocked before committing and this could be similar and kinda getting construed as something a lot more controversial
I agree and its also probably more of a trade that happens on draft day when there isn't any unknownsValue wise its probably fair but i see Winnipeg being more interested in pieces that can help them today
"Not more damaged"...
From a Habs point of view i don't want him on the team. We have a pile of prospects in Laval fighting for spots..and this guy demanding one.
Imagine how fustrating it would be for Beck, who is his equal. Kapanen? Toiling and hoping while McG gets a pass.
He's not that special to accomodate his demands so it's a hard pass from me.
Because it doesn't happen in Montreal?The Habs would have already negotiated the contract, possibly via WPG doing a sign and trade. I'm not sure why you're acting like this is some alien concept.
Because it doesn't happen in Montreal?
No I'm saying players who don't want to sign with their draft clubs, don't typically want to play in Montreal either. At least I don't remember any team jumper jumping to Montreal. May this be because of the GM or the agent, or the player, I don't know.Are you insinuating Hughes is too dumb to know how to be a GM?
It also happened in Montreal before. RFA Josh Anderson comes to mind.
Beck is not his equal."Not more damaged"...
From a Habs point of view i don't want him on the team. We have a pile of prospects in Laval fighting for spots..and this guy demanding one.
Imagine how fustrating it would be for Beck, who is his equal. Kapanen? Toiling and hoping while McG gets a pass.
He's not that special to accomodate his demands so it's a hard pass from me.
The Habs love the strategy of handing prospects apots they havent earned. Montreal is the perfect place for McG with their history of handing roster spots to players like Slaf and Kotkaniemi. McG is way further along than either one of those guys when the Habs broke them in.Damaged goods...
Is it that hard to understand that on any given team the players had to EARN their way to the NHL and this guy is demanding a spot?
That alone will turn off a lot if not most GMs. It certainly going to piss off a lot of players too, both vets and those working their ass off to make it.
This is strictly of his own making and he hurt his value to the Jets and himself.
If i was a Jets fan i would be absolutely furious at such a selfish player, but please, don't expect others to ignore his reality.
Yet it's always a Habs fan who starts these threadsBeck is not his equal.
And Kapanen is not close.
I do get your not wanting to trade for him though. The Habs are loaded with youth and prospects.
Up until now, there wasn't much of a team to want to jump to. From owning the Promsed Land when i was young, the last 30 years has been painful.No I'm saying players who don't want to sign with their draft clubs, don't typically want to play in Montreal either. At least I don't remember any team jumper jumping to Montreal. May this be because of the GM or the agent, or the player, I don't know.
We could had Zegras for similar. Going by offer we turned down for Zegras. McGroarty his skating don't fit with Habs. Montreal is looking for speed and skill.To Montreal :
To Winnipeg
- Rutger McGroarty
Montreal gets a young, physical player with a good shot that is NHL ready and that fit their roster like a glove. Montreal doesn’t need anymore late picks or 2nd as their prospect pool is overflowing and they need quality and NHL ready player. It’s time to consolidate all those assets into something tangible. They also don’t have a top 6 powerforward prospect in their pool. Especially not with a shot like that.
- CAL/FLA 1st. If the pick lands in the top 10 CAL keeps the pick and Winnipeg gets Florida’ 1st. Most likely in the range 24-32.
- Montreal 2nd. Probably in the 33-41 range.
- Pittsburgh 2nd. Most likely in the 43-52 range.
Winnipeg will now have two 1st and two 2nd. Including their own 1st, they will now have 4 picks in the first 55 picks of next year draft that is expected to be a really good one.
If they want to contend they can use those picks to upgrade their roster.
Or if they want to play the two timeline game they can use those picks to add to their prospect pool for the future. The players they draft in this draft should be ready to take over when their current core ages out of their prime. That’s assuming they hit on those picks of course. They can also combine those picks in some way to move up in the draft. Pretty sure they could combine 2 lates 1st into a mid-first and both of those early 2nd into a late-mid 1st. Either way, they can get creative with it.
The CAL/FLA 1st has a small chance to be a very good one. Small chance Calgary finishes in the 11-15 range if they overperform/don’t tank properly.
There was no offerWe could had Zegras for similar. Going by offer we turned down for Zegras. McGroarty his skating don't fit with Habs. Montreal is looking for speed and skill.
I know it's good to have a mix. Makes a team harder to plan as against. But McGoarty probably going too far.
Oh yes, Montreal almost traded for Zegras at draft. But backed out. Wanted Hage instead.There was no offer
Is this news from the same people that said that Kent Hughes turned down a 1st round pick for Josh Anderson in 2022?Oh yes, Montreal almost traded for Zegras at draft. But backed out. Wanted Hage instead.
For who? Z or McG?There was no offer
For z. The rumor had no legs/For who? Z or McG?
Rumour was that there was a Plan B to trade for Z if they were forced to draft a defenseman. Demidov ended that.