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McDavid heating up, what are odds on 150 points this season?

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He wasn't very good vs. Arizona, yet picked up 4 points. Which kind of tells you how Arizona is looking right now...

People who don't normally follow Edmonton may not be aware that the Oilers have had a really tough schedule so far this season. I think, according to the "strength of schedule" metric, they and the Flames (whose visitors and road trips often mirror Edmonton's) have had the two hardest schedules so far this season. Then, there was the brutal travel schedule Edmonton had over the past week and a half.

Tonight and the two Chicago games are the only games I recall offhand where the Oilers faced a weak opponent. They haven't seen San Jose or Anaheim yet this season.

If McDavid's going to make a push for a milestone scoring level down the stretch, this might be the season to do it. In the Oilers' last 12 games this season, 7 are vs. San Jose, Anaheim, or Arizona.
 
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If McDavid just scores goals at the same pace he has the previous 3 seasons for the rest of this season, he’ll finish with 54 goals. 60 is definitely in range. Pacing 73 goals right now.
 
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SnipeShowJB11 said:
5th fastest player to hit 50 points within 25 games I think. Everybody else who did it played in the 80s very early 90s


They won't miss, but the stupid gm needs to upgrade the D
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The crazy thing is Lemieux did it one game faster in 02-03, heart of the dead puck era and one of the slowest players in the league at that point.
 
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Luigi Lemieux said:
The crazy thing is Lemieux did it one game faster in 02-03, heart of the dead puck era.
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This is correct, though as always with Lemieux, it should be noted that it was through 27 team games also. He had 51 points in 26 personal games.

It is also worth mentioning that the Penguins had 82 goals through 27 games played, which means Mario generated 62.2% of their offensive production up to that point.

Insane level of play and the first half of that 2002-2003 season is one I frequently remind the forum of whenever it seems like only 2000-2001 gets all the credit.

Hopefully McDavid can join Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman, Esposito, and Nicholls in the 150+ point club. 98 points to go with 55 games remaining.
 
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Video Nasty said:
This is correct, though as always with Lemieux, it should be noted that it was through 27 team games also. He had 51 points in 26 personal games.

It is also worth mentioning that the Penguins had 82 goals through 27 games played, which means Mario generated 62.2% of their offensive production up to that point.

Insane level of play and the first half of that 2002-2003 season is one I frequently remind the forum of whenever it seems like only 2000-2001 gets all the credit.

Hopefully McDavid can join Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman, Esposito, and Nicholls in the 150+ point club. 98 points to go with 55 games remaining.
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Would love to see it. It's been 27 years since we've had one.
 
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Video Nasty said:
This is correct, though as always with Lemieux, it should be noted that it was through 27 team games also. He had 51 points in 26 personal games.

It is also worth mentioning that the Penguins had 82 goals through 27 games played, which means Mario generated 62.2% of their offensive production up to that point.

Insane level of play and the first half of that 2002-2003 season is one I frequently remind the forum of whenever it seems like only 2000-2001 gets all the credit.

Hopefully McDavid can join Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman, Esposito, and Nicholls in the 150+ point club. 98 points to go with 55 games remaining.
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I post this whenever someone brings up Lemieux's 2002-03 season:

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Lemieux was running away with the scoring race before he was injured (at age 37, on a terrible team). This might have been the most underrated season of his career.
 
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I'd love to see him crack 66 goals and 156 points. Pass OVs best goal scoring season and Yzermans #3 most points in a season. Anything after than is gravy at least for me in terms of his accomplishments.
 
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Sweetpotato said:
I'd love to see him crack 66 goals and 156 points. Pass OVs best goal scoring season and Yzermans #3 most points in a season. Anything after than is gravy at least for me in terms of his accomplishments.
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It would be a hell of a feather in his cap to be able to claim the highest scoring season by a player not named Gretzky and Lemieux.
 
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You know you’re dealing with a legitimate all-timer when some commenters are nitpicking about “barely” dropping 120 points last year (had 123 in 80 games) and “barely” being a positive player this season (+6 through 27 games on a team that is just +2 and clearly would be battling for the West’s bottom 4 seed without his contributions).

I guess it’s just more fascinating for some when players miss enormous chunks of a season so they can play the what if make believe game.
 
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The Panther said:
He wasn't very good vs. Arizona, yet picked up 4 points. Which kind of tells you how Arizona is looking right now...

People who don't normally follow Edmonton may not be aware that the Oilers have had a really tough schedule so far this season. I think, according to the "strength of schedule" metric, they and the Flames (whose visitors and road trips often mirror Edmonton's) have had the two hardest schedules so far this season. Then, there was the brutal travel schedule Edmonton had over the past week and a half.

Tonight and the two Chicago games are the only games I recall offhand where the Oilers faced a weak opponent. They haven't seen San Jose or Anaheim yet this season.

If McDavid's going to make a push for a milestone scoring level down the stretch, this might be the season to do it. In the Oilers' last 12 games this season, 7 are vs. San Jose, Anaheim, or Arizona.
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Where do you get information on strength of schedule?
 
innitfam said:
This can't be. I had it on good authority from a BRILLIANT poster here (all his friends and family say he's the smartest) that he was slowing down. The guy even won 10K on betting.

So, obviously he is slowing down and this is all a charade.
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Can I get a link to this thread. Was away at the time sailing in the south of france.
 
Mr Bill Waters said:
Can I get a link to this thread. Was away at the time sailing in the south of france.
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By a leafs fan of course.

McDavid Slowing Down

And yet once again, the pundits predicting McDavid hitting 150 points are wrong. Only 4 points in his last 5 and 12 in his last 10. Good, but not the generational level we expect. Robertson (who?) about to pass him in points and Horvat, yes, Bo Horvat, now has more goals. This happens every...
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Riddum said:
McDavid is Gretzky 2.0. But they'll probably rob him of another Hart and Ted Lindsay
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No he's not. Gretzky was a much smarter player, even if McDavid is smart himself.

McDavid is stylistically much closer to Bobby Orr anyway, except that Orr dominated the full rink due to his defenseman position.
 
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MasterofGrond said:
Unreal pace right now and he's doing it in a relatively low PPO environment.

what a PLAYER, man
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I think he has a very decent amount of powerplays though considering half of his points are there. He doesn’t have anywhere close to Lemieux in 2002-03 though.
 
I think it's pretty unlikely. I wouldn't bet on him ever reaching the 150pt plateau, but of all current players in the league he does have the best chance at it.

Only 5 players have ever recorded 150+ point seasons: Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Steve Yzerman, Phil Esposito, and Bernie Nicholls.

Only an additional 4 have ever recorded a 140+ point season: Jaromir Jagr, Pat Lafontaine, Mike Bossy, and Adam Oates.

So, it is not common, to say the least.
 
bobholly39 said:
People were super high on him after his production in the short season, and assumed he'd do 150 the following year, and he barely passed 120.

In an absolute perfect storm season could he hit 150? I think he could, but I say it's extremely unlikely.

Don't forget last year he had the absolutely insane playoff run. You know he wants to repeat that. If Oilers seem to be safely in the playoffs come March/April, does McDavid continue to "go all out" accumulating points in the regular season, or does he slow down a bit to make sure he's super fresh come playoffs so he can repeat last year's playoff performance? I could see it being the latter.

It was a horrible look on McDavid in my opinion in the shortened season when he finished season so strong, and came out completely flat in a round 1 playoff sweep. I don't think he wants to repeat that.
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This is fair feedback and I don't necessarily disagree with it, but have one caveat.... McDavid tends to be his most productive towards the end of the season regardless of year. Most years his December and January are slump'ish by his standards. His March/April stats by proxy are always quite high.
 
Sweetpotato said:
I'd love to see him crack 66 goals and 156 points. Pass OVs best goal scoring season and Yzermans #3 most points in a season. Anything after than is gravy at least for me in terms of his accomplishments.
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I think 55-60 and 145-50 is very possible and probably likely at this point on the lower end. If he gets above that I’ll be very surprised.

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I post this whenever someone brings up Lemieux's 2002-03 season:

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Lemieux was running away with the scoring race before he was injured (at age 37, on a terrible team). This might have been the most underrated season of his career.
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He was pulling a Gretzky a quarter of the way through the season. Pretty unreal he did that at 37 and Jagr wasn’t even on his team anymore.
 
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