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Matthews will probably get what Kucherov just got after this coming season which is about $9.5 mil/per. my guess.
 
easton117 said:
Toronto fans never fail to impress me with their unearned confidence in their team.

I give you guys credit for your eternal optimism
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He’s joining one of the hightest scoring teams in the NHL. the confidence is based on simple knowledge of the NHL.
 
wc17 said:
Why the huh? That was my point. Matthews’ comparables are Mcdavid and Eichel. He’s not as good as Mcdavid and probably better than Eichel. Hence the guess of 8 years at $11 million.
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If only it were that easy.
Neither McDavid or Matthews are as valuable as Crosby, and he makes 8.7m/yr.
Mackinnon stats are a good comparable...should Matthews only make 6.3m?
Matthews will negotiate based on what the market will bear, and I suspect he'll leverage an offer sheet to make it happen.

wc17 said:
Oh that’s great news! There’s about a 1% chance Tavares is less than a PPG player!
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Your math is wonky.
Tavares is ppg in only 3 of his 9 years while not having to split 1C with anyone on the NYI
 
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yababy said:
If only it were that easy.
Neither McDavid or Matthews are as valuable as Crosby, and he makes 8.7m/yr.
Mackinnon stats are a good comparable...should Matthews only make 6.3m?
Matthews will negotiate based on what the market will bear, and I suspect he'll leverage an offer sheet to make it happen.
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Unfortunately the landscape of these 2nd contracts in the NHL has changed to these long term big money deals.

I don’t agree that he’ll leverage an offer sheet to try and get as big a contract as possible. He could, and that would be his right...but I don’t see it happening. It’s not the hockey player mindset. We shall see!

yababy said:
Your math is wonky.
Tavares is ppg in only 3 of his 9 years while not having to split 1C with anyone on the NYI
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Yeah. I exaggerated like a lot of non Leaf fans are doing in this thread to rile up Leaf fans.

If I were to actually put a percentage on it I would say there’s a 50% chance that he’s a PPG... and a much much higher chance that he scores more than 60 points as the previous poster said.
 
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Nobody agrees with that article. Not leaf fans, not fans of any team. Nobody. Yet now we'll hear non stop for the next 5 years how "leaf fans" thought Matthews should make more than McDavid all because of one moronic article by one misguided blogger. That's all it takes. I still see RNH being compared to Gretzky every now and then because one crazy analyst once said he had Gretzky like vision pre-draft.
 
NHLsnipers said:
I love Matthews but he doesnt deserve it. Hell get Eichel money at best.
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Eichel signed after his second year:

5v5 G/60 - 0.69 (139th in the NHL)
5v5 Pts/60 - 1.76 (104th in the NHL)
5v5 Primary Pts/60 1.32 (115th in the NHL).

This year Eichel improved to:

5v5 G/60 - 0.99 (46th in the NHL)
5v5 Pts/60 - 2.04 (67th in the NHL)
5v5 Primary Pts/60 1.67 (51st in the NHL).

Matthews second year:
5v5 G/60 - 1.68 (1st in the NHL - 22% higher than second place Karlsson. Matthews was also 1st in his rookie season)
5v5 Pts/60 - 2.91 (3rd in the NHL behind McDavid and MacKinnon. 31st in his rookie season.)
5v5 Primary Pts/60 2.58 (1st in the NHL by a pretty healthy margin. 7th in his rookie season).


The last time a player had a 5v5 G/60 higher than Matthews in 2017/18 was Nash in 2014/15. Stamkos did in 2011/12. Ovechkin has not.

The last time a player had a 5v5 Primary Pts/60 higher than Matthews in 2017/18 was Perry in 2013/14. Crosby exceeded it (often by a wide margin) several years before that. Malkin did once. Patrick Kane has never come close.

Career 5v5 Primary Pts/60 Crosby has 2.25, Matthews 2.24, McDavid 2.22, Malkin 2.11. Barzal is at 2.04 Others are far behind (Kucherov: 1.83, Tavares 1.70, Drai: 1.53, Eichel: 1.39)

Career 5v5 G/60: Matthews 1.61; Laine 1.24; Boeser 1.22, Stamkos 1.19; Ovechkin 1.19; Nash 1.16

What Matthews has done is pretty special. He hasn't had the luxury of getting to load up on points by playing 75% of the PP time on a top heavy unit. Kucherov, Drai, Eichel, Marner etc. Despite all of them being older, none of them have been able to do what Matthews has been able to do.


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AlphaBravo said:
Players like Matthews have all the bargaining chips in the world. Someone of his caliber can simply say I want the max deal possible, and get it because if Toronto doesn't give it, some other teams will (other than 1 extra year).
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Yeah except that he doesn’t have that option for like 6 more seasons.... unless you mean offer sheet which I think has been discussed enough in the other threads
 
Tavares the prized UFA after scoring 86 points got 11 million. McDavid; the best player on the planet got 12.5 million. It wouldn't be logical, the post isn't logical; and yet i'm commenting. discussing this. #$%^!
 
I think we see a 8 x $13M contract for Matthews. He's at odds with Babcock and now they're awarding the captaincy to the new guy who betrayed his last organization and teammates.
 
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Leaf Fans said:
Where are all your Bruins suck posts? Are you also too optimistic? Is Mc Avoy going to be a 15 year NHLer like Zubov?
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I freely admit they won’t win a cup this year. Maybe 2020? Dunno.

As currently constructed it won’t happen.

Reason being Left side D is too situational and small. And something is off with their forward group. Frankly I think they’re a bit soft, though that seems to be something they’re addressing.

Fair enough? Will still make the playoffs. Probably win round one against Toronto. Bow out to Tampa again.

And ya. McAvoy reminds me of Zubov. Hope he has a career just like it. Might be his skating. Maybe his shot. Not sure!
 
easton117 said:
I freely admit they won’t win a cup this year. Maybe 2020? Dunno.

As currently constructed it won’t happen.

Reason being Left side D is too situational and small. And something is off with their forward group. Frankly I think they’re a bit soft, though that seems to be something they’re addressing.

Fair enough? Will still make the playoffs. Probably win round one against Toronto. Bow out to Tampa again.

And ya. McAvoy reminds me of Zubov. Hope he has a career just like it. Might be his skating. Maybe his shot. Not sure!
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Oh, you are less optimistic than I thought. I think Boston has a good shot.
 
Lawl nah. Not after kucherov just got 9.5

Absolute max is 11mil

easton117 said:
I freely admit they won’t win a cup this year. Maybe 2020? Dunno.

As currently constructed it won’t happen.

Reason being Left side D is too situational and small. And something is off with their forward group. Frankly I think they’re a bit soft, though that seems to be something they’re addressing.

Fair enough? Will still make the playoffs. Probably win round one against Toronto. Bow out to Tampa again.

And ya. McAvoy reminds me of Zubov. Hope he has a career just like it. Might be his skating. Maybe his shot. Not sure!
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Yeah call me crazy but the leafs have to be the favorite this time vs boston. Toronto added JT and boston lost Nash. Leafs should have home ice game 7 this time
 
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A case can be made that he should be the 2nd highest paid NHLer behind McDavid since he is likely the 2nd best young player in the game and the face of the Maple Leafs. I don't think that he should take less than Tavares gets paid TBH. I'd say he probably gets $11-$11.5 million AAV unless he has a huge season in which case maybe he gets McDavid money.
 
Seems like a clickbait article more then anything. My guess is Eichel's contract will be the standard that Matthew's contract is based on. Maybe Matthews gets Tavares money at best
 
[MOD] Matthews strikes me as a guy that will not accept a discount deal. Maybe 12M per would be my guess. For a player not to break 70 points yet, this is crazy money.
 
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i am a huge leafs fan. (ignore the profile pic, i love CP aha) But i have to say that even though yes, matthews is better then mcdavid defensively. There is no way in hell he is a better player overall. Even if matthews played the 20 games missed. He still would of been 50 points behind mcdavid over the past 2 seasons. I love matthews. and i love my leafs. But no one on our team is better then mcdavid lol.

To defend my team thoroughly though. Why the f*** would Arizona offer sheet matthews. They have the home town advantage, whoopty doo. Not only would they expel 4 first rounders to get matthews. But even if arizona succeeds. How the hell are they building around him through the draft ??? :laugh: These people talking about offer sheeting him need to stop and think realistically. No one wants to play in a desert. Except for shane doan LOOL
 
GodEmperor said:
Matthews will get more than McDavid
That is once he signs the offer sheet with Arizona
Because he's mad that Tavares got the C
And he's seething that Babcock didn't play him enough
And Toronto fans are super duper mean and he hates them all

There, I fused all your rumors into one, ENJOY [GODEMPEROR RUMOR]
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wait..you think matthews is making it to july 1, 2019 without a deal?

LAWL he signs for 10 x 8 years before training camp

what are people gonna say when he gets 2-2.5 less than mcdavid?

oh wait. "he makes more than kucherov! LOLLLLL"

never change hfboards
 
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easton117 said:
Is Arizona that far off? Their defence is at par with if not better than Toronto’s. They have a goalie who doesn’t play dodge ball now.

Forwards could use some work sure. Nothing a 4th year home grown talent like Mathews couldn’t help. He’d be a god in the desert. A very rich god.
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What is up with this weird narrative that Matthews will go to Arizona ? I would bet a large sum of money he never plays for that team.
 
LeapOnOver said:
<------- I don't know. I mean, that never happens where a player goes to their hometown team right?o_O
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No, it doesn’t actually. At all. Tavares was the first in how many years ? You especially don’t see a star leave a good team for a bad team just because it’s tbeir hometown. Tavares situation was unique. So ya people can put this to bed. If Auston doesn’t retire a leaf, it’ll be because he signs elsewhere in the final year or two of his career depending where the leafs are.
 
Auston Tavares said:
No, it doesn’t actually. At all. Tavares was the first in how many years ? You especially don’t see a star leave a good team for a bad team just because it’s tbeir hometown. Tavares situation was unique. So ya people can put this to bed. If Auston doesn’t retire a leaf, it’ll be because he signs elsewhere in the final year or two of his career depending where the leafs are.
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Walked right into that one eh? Happened one year ago and you've failed at the internet

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