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Eklund Rumor: Matthews to get more than McDavid?

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Value and price are not always correlated. You pay what you have to if you want something badly enough. Tell Matthews to "stick it" and then wait for UFA to see him jump to a team that will pay more in a state with lower taxation--maybe even his home town? Sure - go for it.
 
No way he makes more than McDavid. No way. With that said, I don't see him signing for anything less than 10.5 million. If I had to bet, I would wager he signs for 11.
 
Does anyone (Not just Leaf fans) remember when Matthews was going to pull a Lindros when he wasn't signed by the first week of July to his ELC? Same song different dance. Everyone wants Toronto to be doomed but the narrative is so tiring.

People claim it's the Toronto media that are bad but before they picked up these stories I read these takes first on here. Other fans are who drive this nonsense. There is so much evidence if you just do the slightest bit of research into it to show he is not unhappy and he loves the team. Who cares if he leaves when he is 30, he will have his best years as a Leaf.
 
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Scott Malkinson said:
McDavid is the best player on the planet.

He's better than anyone I've ever seen.

Matthews won't make more than Connor.
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Let me exaggerate the scenario and take a step back and look at the cap in 2009.
It would be a tough argument to put a better player above Sidney Crosby, and a tougher argument to justify paying other people more money.

Flashforward to a little more recently... is Benn an amazing player? Yes. Is Subban? Tavares? Yes. Yes.
Are they better than Crosby, no (same may argue though). Are they better now than Crosby was then? Definitely no.
Are they making more on their most recent contracts than Crosby?
Yes.

But the cap rose, and so max. contracts rose, and cap hit percentages lowered.

Assuming the cap keeps rising, it's inevitable that lesser player than McDavid will eventually make more money than him, with a smaller initial cap percentage hit.
Maybe not Matthews, but its not a stretch for it to be him either.
 
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uncleben said:
Let me exaggerate the scenario and take a step back and look at the cap in 2009.
It would be a tough argument to put a better player above Sidney Crosby, and a tougher argument to justify paying other people more money.

Flashforward to a little more recently... is Benn an amazing player? Yes. Is Subban? Tavares? Yes. Yes.
Are they better than Crosby, no (same may argue though). Are they better now than Crosby was then? Definitely no.
Are they making more on their most recent contracts than Crosby?
Yes.

But the cap rose, and so max. contracts rose, and cap hit percentages rose.

Assuming the cap keeps rising, it's inevitable that lesser player than McDavid will eventually make more money than him, with a smaller initial cap percentage hit.
Maybe not Matthews, but its not a stretch for it to be him either.
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This all true. If Matthews wants it, he can probably hold out and get more than McDavid. There's zero to suggest he is even thinking along these lines though. I think he'll be quite content with 11, 10.5 if we're lucky.
 
Matthews is a better player then Tavares. However, he won’t get more but likely the same.
 
gifted88 said:
Why should he get more than McDavid?

I guess it's entirely possible for the Leafs to pay him a ton, but I'd be very interested to hear why they think he's more valuable than McDavid.
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Especially when you have to pay extra for players to play in Edmonton.
 
Isles Junkie said:
Why should a really really really good player make more than a really really really great player?
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That's not necessarily how it works though. Toews got significantly more than Malkin (purposefully not saying Crosby here, because of the different CBA and because Malkin and Toews contracts were one year apart too).

This idea that a contract below the maximum sets any kind of upper limit just because a player is great never works. Pens fans insisted Malkin would take 8.7m (which he should not have, because of the aforementioned new CBA), Avs fans insisted that ROR would fall in line with the "Duchene cap", Habs fans cited Doughty as some cap on what Subban could possibly get, etc. It could happen (especially since TOR is not a bad place to be right now), but it's not somehow self-evident that Matthews needs to take his negotiation cues from either McDavid or Tavares.
 
gifted88 said:
Why should he get more than McDavid?

I guess it's entirely possible for the Leafs to pay him a ton, but I'd be very interested to hear why they think he's more valuable than McDavid.
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1. Higher cap at the time of signing
2. McDavid took a paycut so he's paid below his value
 
No way he gets more than McDavid. However if I could have Mathews at 11AAV or JT at 11AAV, I would take Mathews. I see him signing for 11AAV.
What I find funny is in 99% of threads involving Leafs fans and their players its comparing Mathews to McDavid and how they are so close, or how even though Marner has had 61/69 pts, he is a sure bet ppg player with 100+pt potential! However, in the one thread where we are talking about having to sign them all of a sudden... AM is definitively not as good as McDavid and doesnt deserve the money he gets. Marner wont get 9AAV, he hasent even scored a ppg yet!
 
wingnutks said:
No way he gets more than McDavid. However if I could have Mathews at 11AAV or JT at 11AAV, I would take Mathews. I see him signing for 11AAV.
What I find funny is in 99% of threads involving Leafs fans and their players its comparing Mathews to McDavid and how they are so close, or how even though Marner has had 61/69 pts, he is a sure bet ppg player with 100+pt potential! However, in the one thread where we are talking about having to sign them all of a sudden... AM is definitively not as good as McDavid and doesnt deserve the money he gets. Marner wont get 9AAV, he hasent even scored a ppg yet!
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Every fanbase has these people. He is not as good. He is not a generational player. Perhaps close to Malkin which is pretty damn good but not Crosby or McDavid.

Our team looks likely to use bridge deals and try and win in 5yrs. We know someone will be traded.
 
I would expect $11-12 million, but if Matthews asks for $13, Toronto will pay him. Marner will get $9 million.
 
Gary Nylund said:
This all true. If Matthews wants it, he can probably hold out and get more than McDavid. There's zero to suggest he is even thinking along these lines though. I think he'll be quite content with 11, 10.5 if we're lucky.
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He could hold out for more yes. I too doubt that is anywhere on his mind.

Connor got his rightfully earned money. He gets the most in the league which imho is a bit more then he should have gotten, but I think it evens out because he has to play in Edmonton. Call it hazard pay lol

Now we switch to the leafs and AM

AM could make 12+ mill per. But I'm guessing he doesn't want to walk away from the leafs or screw up the plans of Dubas and Shanny. He is happy in every way and the team has a much brighter future then anywhere he could goto and make the max contract. He is in a position most players would kill for. A team that will peak with them and one that is about as dangerous as any in the league. Not to metion the window for the leafs hasn't even fully opened as of yet.


Only on HFB will you find people that actually believe a rebuilding team that manages to luck unto a first overall player that is truly elite and unique in every way would let that player slip away.

Give him 8x11, the Captaincy and a card that says "Now give us a reason to build a statue of you on legends row..."

Then call it a day.
 
Changeiscoming said:
He was offered more money to play in Sweden. The Swiss league, while it is getting better is several rungs down the ladder compared to the top Swedish leagues--but Matthews took into account the different tax laws.
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He went to the Swiss league to play under Marc Crawford, a coach with actual NHL experience.
 
10M is basically guaranteed because that's what Eichel got.

But i think there's a human element that i anticipate to come in play. The organization just did a tremendous job getting a well respected player who boosts their chances to win for the next 7 years. If you put yourself in Matthews' shoes you know you don't have the merits that JT does, you want the negotiations to go as smoothly as possible to avoid any hassle and knowing JT turned down more money to play in Toronto because he thinks he can win there makes for a combination of things that if i was him i wouldn't try to squeeze every penny possible.

Everyone knows McDavid is arguably the best player in the world so pushing for the same money would look really selfish.

I think when you add everything up i think Matthews will settle for like 10.5M. Everyone will look at it as a fair deal, he's not putting himself over JT and it's so much money for a 21 yr old kid that he'll feel super rich regardless.
 
Is expectation to be signed after this season? If so, and hes sub 70 pts again i cant see him getting mote that 8.5-9 million
 
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