I am not sure he SHOULD and Eklund is Eklund, but it was strange to me, how everyone just took him taking any less for granted.
Eklund Rumor: Matthews to get more than McDavid?
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Good to know Laine, Marner and a few other good players will be getting offersheets. Otherwise they'd be signed now.
If Matthews really want to leave the Leafs(not that I believe it) he may push for a shorter deal(say like 2-3 years). In theory he could be a UFA by the age of 25 if he plays his contracts right
Todd1a
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if he signs a 4 year deal he can be a ufa after that ? or is it 5 more years he needs ?
He would need 4 but I can't see Toronto offering him a 4 year deal just for that reason. Now if a team really wanted to screw Toronto over give Matthews a 4 year offer sheet(sure Toronto will match it but it basically allows Matthews to cash out ASAP)
Basically the rules are 7 years played in the pro leagues or 27 to be a UFA. Matthews would hit 7 years if he signed a 4 year deal after his 3 year ELC
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A team better be pretty certain of signing him as a UFA, I suppose it depends on the offer sheet. Like he signs one one extreme 4*4 because he really wants to sign with that team in 4 years or on the other extreme he signs 4@20% of the cap and at UFA he goes elsewhere.
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He doesn't strike you as anything. You don't know him and have no basis for that. You are welcome to your opinion but you must understand that is your bias against him. He has only signed one contract and Bobby Orr himself has stated that is not only about the money though I am sure it plays a role.
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In a hypothetical extreme scenario, if Team X gives Matthews an offer sheet say for 4 years @ 12M, I have to believe Toronto matches it and worries about the implications later
I have to believe the only way Matthews and his agent will even consider a 4 year offer sheet is
1. he really wants out of Toronto(which to me is more media/fan speculation on people who want to see the Leafs fail)
2. the AAV is significantly much higher then he can get on a Toronto 8 year deal
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I agree, Toronto would match it. However a team that offered that number, market value or just above, is not guaranteed to sign him after as a UFA. So the team offering that amount, again just for the purpose of getting him to UFA would have to be awfully vindictive. Or a team hires a HF poster as GM which is pretty much the same.
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It's worthless to base who deserves more $. It's based on the cap and revenue. Thanks to Vegas, the cap went up more this year than it has in a very long time. IMO, Matthews gets 11 million per.
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I don't know why people get so bent out of shape about the cap. It's inevitable that TOR will one day be up against it. Thank goodness they are paying a lot for good players and not people like Lupul, Clarkson, Dion, etc.
It doesn't matter if I am making jokes or if someone is trying to get internet clicks. Dubas and company were hired to make the cap work. You better believe it when the reality of moving good players to keep things balanced will occur. For now don't lose any sleep if TOR has to pay Matthews a lot of money.
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Dont think he will make as much as McDavid. McDavid makes that much because he produces more than anybody in the league. Mathews will probably get around 9-11 is my guess. I dont think he should get that much but being a first overall pick can be costly to a team in his next contract.
That's not how the cap works though. The highest paid player is usually not the highest producer(Or it does not last long). The cap going up means much more.
Matthews has no chance of getting 9 or 10 million imo. Eichel got 10 already with a lower cap.
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It is in this case. Is he not the highest producer? Not going to argue your point but in this case he is the highest producer. I agree though that its not the highest producer that usually gets paid. McDavid dominates the score sheet every night though. Thats more of a reflection of how dominant he is in general, thus why he is the highest paid player.
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I don't think Matthews will get insane money.
My reasoning is that signing Tavares weakened some of his leverage. Without Tavares Matthews had all the bargaining power as there would be no way the Leafs could even pretend to trade him or go into a protracted contract argument after spending the last few years marketing the heck out of him and justifying tanking to the STHers and fans.
It's the difference between Draisatl where The Oil had to talk their fans into this next wave and Pastrnak where The Bruins still had Bergeron, Marchand and co. to sell to their fans.
Also - think his no show in the playoffs might've cost him a couple bucks.
My reasoning is that signing Tavares weakened some of his leverage. Without Tavares Matthews had all the bargaining power as there would be no way the Leafs could even pretend to trade him or go into a protracted contract argument after spending the last few years marketing the heck out of him and justifying tanking to the STHers and fans.
It's the difference between Draisatl where The Oil had to talk their fans into this next wave and Pastrnak where The Bruins still had Bergeron, Marchand and co. to sell to their fans.
Also - think his no show in the playoffs might've cost him a couple bucks.
The highest paid quarterback in the NFL is rarely the best. It’s just the most recently signed franchise guy. Same here. No big deal.
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He went overseas as it was best for his career. He played against men before ever stepping foot on NHL ice.
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gifted88
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Why should he get more than McDavid?
I guess it's entirely possible for the Leafs to pay him a ton, but I'd be very interested to hear why they think he's more valuable than McDavid.
I guess it's entirely possible for the Leafs to pay him a ton, but I'd be very interested to hear why they think he's more valuable than McDavid.
Higher cap at signing would be the only correct answer. I hope he comes in at 9 to 11. That's a lie, I hope he comes in at 5m, but that's not ever going to happen.
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I cant see him getting less then 10-11 million. It would likely take a higher increase in the cap before an agent will be able to justify asking for a higher cap hit then McDavid though, so I do not see that in the immediate future, but that depends on whether league revenues continue to increase at the same rate or not. Eventually with the cap increasing a guy will get more then McDavid whether he is as good or not.
Jumptheshark
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He was offered more money to play in Sweden. The Swiss league, while it is getting better is several rungs down the ladder compared to the top Swedish leagues--but Matthews took into account the different tax laws.
Isles Junkie
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Why should a really really really good player make more than a really really really great player?
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