Eklund Rumor: Matthews to get more than McDavid?

[Alberta Yote]

Matthews shot is better and his defence is arguably somewhat better. McDavid does everything else better.

11 to 11.5 per for 8 is my guess.

 

[bruins4thecup65]

Toronto going to have some serious cap issues

 

[Hunter368]

Last two seasons

Matthews 132 points 0.92 ppg
McDavid 208 points 1.27 ppg

Your turn I guess...

I wonder what each would score if they flipped teams. I think the gap would be noticeable larger.

 

[Dynamite Time]

The NHL is not the NBA. He will get the next biggest contract. Now what they do with him and the signing of Tavares will be a Soap Opera.

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Draisaitl has outscored Matthews each of the last 2 seasons. Last season he did it mostly while centering his own line with no name wingers. I guess you get an extra 20 imaginary points when you play for the Leafs.

McDavid was Leon's most common forward linemate at 5v5 last season, both playing together about 45% of the time. So yes, a majority of the time was without McDavid, but still almost half of the time was with him, which I assume was when he produced the most at 5v5, along with the powerplay.

At 5v5, Matthews scored 2.93 pts/60 (2.6 primary pts/60), compared to Drai's 2.3 pts/60 (1.93 primary pts/60) which is still very good just saying.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

I'm an Oilers fan and I hope this happens.

 

[DKH]

Toronto going to have some serious cap issues

Tampa will be worse although they can just let Gourde go and ask Point to take a team friendly deal which he probably will

 

[ScaredStreit]

I think he gets an identical contract as Tavares. Dubas can say he's keeping their young offensive core in tact all he wants...but if he has $22million in Tavares/Matthews then another $7 in Marner and $6 in Nylander (guestimates, but seem in the ball park)...that's $35million in 4 players that are all forwards...problem. It's a nice problem to have for sure, but a problem nevertheless.

 

[McShogun99]

Matthews missed 20 games last year. Lol

The year before he outscored him by 8 points in the same number of games. This year going by PPG then Matthews would have outscored Draisaitl by 9 points. They are in the same tier regardless if Toronto fans want to admit it or not. I do think that Matthews is the better player over Draisaitl but not by much.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Leafs fans refuse to believe Matthews is seeking to max out his contract.
Proof is in whether he signs this summer or waits until July 2019. I'm honestly not sure what the dude want, but his action (or non action) will tell me

If we actually get to July 1st, 2019 then yeah maybe that will be proof. But for now, and even into next season I think the Leafs would like to get Nylander and Marner signed before Matthews. All the "he won't take more than 3 million less than Matthews" conversations go out the window if they're signed before Matthews. That could be difficult to do with if they want to wait to get Matthews number first but with Nylander already RFA he won't have that luxury. Something the Oilers should have done with Draisaitl instead of inking McDavid the first chance they got.

 

[Kamiccolo]

I thought this was already put to bed in another thread.

Arizona will offer sheet him at 14 million per. They will pay for this through revenue sharing aka Toronto’s money. Players love going home now. It’s all the rage.

So yes. More than McDavid

Why would they offersheet him 14 million? Is he better than McDavid or something?

 

[CauZuki]

I will put it in some perspective for you. In kucherovs 2nd year, he scored 65 points in 82 games on the third line as a forward. Matthews scored 63 points in 62 games on the first line as a center in his second year. Matthews will get locked up for 8 years. He will definitively outscore Kucherov before his contract ends and will have the additional defensive responsibilities that a center has. The contract value is calculated to account for the peak years

That's fine but as it stands hitting Kucherov's current level of play would be close to Matthew's ceiling at least offensively speaking? Kucherov playoff numbers speak for themselves , only better player would be Crosby. I personally don't think Matthews has Crosby upside(not saying you implied this in any way).

I think it's fair to pay on potential and Matthews could become an offense producer like Kucherov but it's certainly not a given. I am not convinced that being good defensively and playing C is enough to overcome Kucherov's offensive production.

 

[LTIR]

Salary cap when McDavid signed his deal to when Matthews will sign his will be a factor as well.
If cap goes up to low 80s then 10M would be the new 8M.

8M seems to be the new 6M comoared to when Hall etc signed their deals.

 

[Newsworthy]

Mathews isn't worth more than Kucherov.

 

[JadedLeaf]

Matthews is better than McDavid.

Naturally he gets paid more.

Come on man... stop doing crap like this..

 

[Jozay]

Lmao, there is a 0% chance he gets more than McDavid

Probably matches JT's 11 aav at max.

 

[easton117]

Why would they offersheet him 14 million? Is he better than McDavid or something?

Are you asking me as a human with eye balls?

Or me after reading Leaf fan posts on this site?

I just want it to happen for the entertainment value alone

 

[34]

The year before he outscored him by 8 points in the same number of games. This year going by PPG then Matthews would have outscored Draisaitl by 9 points. They are in the same tier regardless if Toronto fans want to admit it or not. I do think that Matthews is the better player over Draisaitl but not by much.

I like Drai, he is a beast, but Matthews is a tier above. I think now that Tavares is a Leaf, it will give Matthews a little more space on the ice and he is going to light it up next season. Teams are going to have to pick either Tavares or Matthews to put there top pairing D against. Can not cover both!

 

[rent free]

Why would they offersheet him 14 million? Is he better than McDavid or something?

they offer him that to put the leafs in a bind.

 

[rynryn]

i'm sure Matthews wouldn't sign an offer sheet for $14m but he might sign one for over what TOR wants to sign him for (but fairly close) just so they have to match it or look like tools for letting him go over a difference of $1m/yr or whatever.

 

[Todd1a]

If the cap goes to 82 to 83 million I would not be shocked to see him get 11.5 to 12.0 but still less then mcdavid

 

[belair]

Why does it matter how much McDavid makes? The worry is how much Tavares makes. What if he regresses to a 60 point producer next season and Marner and Matthews outplay him? McDavid who? Team comparables are what you need to worry about.

 

[MagicalRazor]

I really Don't see the leafs having Cap issues , Cap moves up 3-5 Mill every year so lets say it goes up 3 next year again

75 MILL the cap will be

J.T 11
Matthews 11
Nylander 7-7.5
Marner 7.5-8.5
38MILL

We still got 38ish Mill Remaining
Riellys , Kadri , Zits , Freddy are locked in allready , so that's another 20. Brown / Hyman both aren't gonna cost lots but are super effective inline up Marleau will be off books soon Horton as well , Gardiner, We got alot of prospects we can plug holes with that will be cost effective we are actually in super good shape . we still got 18-20 M left over to plug holes

 

[wc17]

Huh?
Matthews only comparable is McDavid

Why the huh? That was my point. Matthews’ comparables are Mcdavid and Eichel. He’s not as good as Mcdavid and probably better than Eichel. Hence the guess of 8 years at $11 million.

 

[wc17]

Why does it matter how much McDavid makes? The worry is how much Tavares makes. What if he regresses to a 60 point producer next season and Marner and Matthews outplay him? McDavid who? Team comparables are what you need to worry about.

Oh that’s great news! There’s about a 1% chance Tavares is less than a PPG player!