Confirmed with Link: Matteau to MTL for Devante Smith-Pelly
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DatBoyJPP
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Corrente was drafted in a similar position and was only given 34 games which most, if not everyone, would say was fair.
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JimEIV
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Corrente never rode the pine like Matteau did this season while scrubs like O'Neill, Ruutu, Tlustly, O'Brien, Thompson, Tootoo et al stunk up the joint.
And when Matteau did get in, he was given almost no time at all in many of the games.
SteveCangialosi123
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Stunk in the minors, stunk when he was up, new management didn't like him..He didn't earn a spot over Tootoo or Farnham. That should tell you the kinda guy we were dealing with.
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And Corrente was on pace for about 25 points on an offensively inept MacLean team. What's your point? Both of them suck and giving them 200 games to prove what we already knew would be a detriment to the franchise
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He absolutely did not stink in the AHL. He had two pretty decent seasons. And his 1st season in the AHL he was one of the youngest players in the entire league.
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He stunk. The "4th line plug with no potential" more than doubled his goal total at age 21 in 55 games (AHL). Comparatively, he stunk.
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JimEIV
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Matteau was out of the AHL at 21. He just turned 22 last month.
Are you pulling my leg comparing stats from a player on a really bad Albany team at 19 and 20 to a 21 year old?
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Sorry I don't think age 20 is significantly different than 21 lol. The turd had less than half as many goals as a 20 year old than DSP at 21. You can absolutely compare those two seasons.
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its amazing the lengths people will go to just to avoid admitting they might be wrong
I was wrong about Sykora in 2012. I was wrong about Gomez last year.
its not that hard to do
I was wrong about Sykora in 2012. I was wrong about Gomez last year.
its not that hard to do
If there were a searchable database of AHL players and you could search out forwards' age 20 seasons it'd be easy to see that Matteau's 2014-15 was totally unremarkable and that the vast majority of players who had a season like that at age 20 were either never NHL quality players or were fringe players.
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Nick Lappin, who was a college player up until about 2 weeks ago, already has 10% of Matteau's career AHL points. think about that.
SteveCangialosi123
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Lol that's hilarious. Really at this point arguing that Matteau showed anything and can be an impact player is like arguing that Eric Gelinas will be a shut down number one defenseman. It's just ridiculously untrue.
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And so was the entire team aside from a couple of career minor leaguers that ate up all of the prime minutes.
He was 6th on the team in scoring, 5th on the team in goals, 1st on the team in +/- in 2014-15 and produced identically to Boucher last season in Albany...and again he was the youngest regular on the team by good margin.
Don't you think that maybe says something about Matteau if he couldn't force those players out of the lineup?
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Possibly. But he never got the opportunity a lot of those players got. Hell, O'Neil was in the top 6 for a period of time...they stuck with him for a ridiculous amount of time while he did absolutely nothing
SteveCangialosi123
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Nah, everyone's out to get him. It's all a big conspiracy. He'll be a star one day. You'll see, you'll all see!!
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I'd be willing to bet that Matteau will never score as many goals in the NHL as Smith-Pelly will have with NJ in this quarter season.
Great. He had 12 goals in 61 games. That's indicative of a mediocre player. He didn't get a ton of breaks on linemates but he wasn't able to make it happen for himself, either. He had a little more than a shot and a half per game. Not good.
Boucher now has 3 very solid seasons wrapped around his poor 2014-15. Bad seasons happen to good players sometimes.
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Matts is now riding the pine with the Habs after showing them nothing. At what point is he just a bust and we made a decent deal to get something of value for him?
They're different types of players with different resumes though. O'Neill led the AHL in scoring in 2014-15 and is a RW, where we have very little depth. They probably stuck with him that long to see what he had. If you want to argue that Matteau deserved a similar opportunity, that's fair. Personally I've never really seen much in Matteau other than a dime-a-dozen fourth liner, so I didn't really care what we did with him.
