Rumor: Matt Sekeres (Daily Hive) - Winnipeg Jets team to watch on JT Miller

[Gabe Kupari]

Any team that is a contender has interest in Miller...without any trade restrictions + having another year at 5.25 which can be retained on, I think it’s safe to say he will return a haul. Winnipeg fans are not going to like it but I’d want Perfetti and if that’s a no, I’d be perfectly fine moving on knowing another team will match the asking price. With that being said, I don’t think there is much of a fit with Winnipeg as they really have no reason to push their chips into the middle, even though Miller is the type of player that could put even a team like that into serious cup contention - especially if you’re adding him without taking anything away from your roster.

So the Jets with no capspace trade u a guy on the roster on his elc for a guy making 5 plus.

In what non fantasy world do u live in

 

[Gabe Kupari]

No Cap = no Miller for Winnipeg

Unless you guys gonna take Wheeler or Schmidt back

 

[Paddys Pub]

Jets aren’t even close to being real contenders.
Why would they go hard after Miller?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

no, perfetti will be on his elc for 3 whole seasons then we will have 4 more years of control after that, where as miller only has 1.5 years left on his current contract where it will take a raise for him to even re-sign with us, money that we don't even have.

Age too. Perfetti will be in his 20s during those peak value years. Miller turns 30 in the 1st year of his next contract.

That’s the thing about limited control. A team is either letting a player walk or re-signing him to a contract with an uncomfortable probability that he will not live up to it. Lose-lose.

 

[jackjohnson]

I heard this b4 the Schmidt trade happened. Don't think Jets have interest anymore and canuck fans need to stop pretending you gonna be getting grade A prospects for him anyways

Typical hfboards tho

Typical hfboard is actually fans wanting 1st line players for B prospects. Miller is definitely worth an A prospect. Canucks arent forced to trade him now, they can trade him next year too amd not even retain on his salary.

 

[jackjohnson]

Age too. Perfetti will be in his 20s during those peak value years. Miller turns 30 in the 1st year of his next contract.

That’s the thing about limited control. A team is either letting a player walk or re-signing him to a contract with an uncomfortable probability that he will not live up to it. Lose-lose.

With that logic though, teams will never trade anything of value if they keep thinking long term. I mean you either want to push for the cup or just sit idle and build through draft. You cant push to be a cup contender while also not trading picks and prospects because of the future. You either have to think of present or the future not both. This is what separates a cup contender and a pretender trying to be a contender. Tampa is a team that spends to win cups. Then we have some teams that arent all in it.

 

[jackjohnson]

So the Jets with no capspace trade u a guy on the roster on his elc for a guy making 5 plus.

In what non fantasy world do u live in

That means Jets are not a good trading partner for Canucks. Again Canucks arent in business of helping other teams win the cup. They have their own self interest.

 

[BatVader]

I’d rather they traded for Boeser

 

[iFan]

How do you know Horvat and Miller will leave after their contract is up? Did they tell you that? Or is Benning coming back?

Have you seen our cap issues? how do you sign them both well fixing our D core? Is signing Miller to a big contract when he's 30 a smart move for the Canucks with where we are at?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

With that logic though, teams will never trade anything of value if they keep thinking long term. I mean you either want to push for the cup or just sit idle and build through draft. You cant push to be a cup contender while also not trading picks and prospects because of the future. You either have to think of present or the future not both. This is what separates a cup contender and a pretender trying to be a contender. Tampa is a team that spends to win cups. Then we have some teams that arent all in it.

We're talking about Perfetti here, a prospect that was obtained via the investment of a Top 10 pick. The risk in trading for players like Miller can be mitigated by keeping that top shelf stuff off the table. We see that play out in practice; it's generally a package of lesser pieces. 1 for 1 type deals in this situation are sparse and the big one is perhaps the worst trade in recent memory (Erat for Forsberg).

Tampa didn't move a prospect/young player of that caliber in its win now moves. In fact, Drouin was moved for another recent Top 10 pick with the full 7 in Sergachev.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I’d rather they traded for Boeser

He could very well be available too.

 

[Boonk]

The Jets need to stop trading picks and prospects for rentals. We're not even a guarantee to make the playoffs right now, and we're probably more sellers than buyers at this point.

 

[jackjohnson]

We're talking about Perfetti here, a prospect that was obtained via the investment of a Top 10 pick. The risk in trading for players like Miller can be mitigated by keeping that top shelf stuff off the table. We see that play out in practice; it's generally a package of lesser pieces. 1 for 1 type deals in this situation are sparse and the big one is perhaps the worst trade in recent memory (Erat for Forsberg).

Tampa didn't move a prospect/young player of that caliber in its win now moves. In fact, Drouin was moved for another recent Top 10 pick with the full 7 in Sergachev.

Tampa did move Cal Foote and a pick for I think it was Coleman and they also got Goodrow in another trade. Those players were really important for them in winning the cup. Now Miller is even a more impact player, basically a core player for Canucks. You dont usually get that type of player with terms and low caphit on the deadline. He is a premium player which requires a premium price amd the price is set by the team that values him most to give up the rquired pieces. If thats too rich for other teams, then it means they wont bid on him. Its all about which team is the most ready and want the cup that badly to pay for Miller. Imagine a team like FLA getting him with retention, it would probably be lights out for the rest of the league.

 

[jackjohnson]

Have you seen our cap issues? how do you sign them both well fixing our D core? Is signing Miller to a big contract when he's 30 a smart move for the Canucks with where we are at?

You said both of them will leave, so you mean we cant even sign one of them? Also Canucks trade for the 30 year old OEL with 7 million dollar cap hit and give up a 1st but now they cant sign their most important players like Miller and Horvat? Same situation where we let Tanev walk? While we still keep overpaid players like Pearaon? OEL? cmon man, thats not how you build a team. When it comes to signing your top players, you make room for them, not let them walk. Thats a Benning move and JR will definitely have them signed before FA and if not able to, he would then trade them. You are predicting something 2 years away when Canucks havent even started negeotiating with Miller or Horvat's agents. Maybe Horvat takes a hometown discount and sign for 5 million or Miller decides to sign for 6 million, you dont know anything yet so you are just speculating at this point. Its like me saying Canucks better trade Hughes or he will leave in 6 years.

 

[surixon]

With that logic though, teams will never trade anything of value if they keep thinking long term. I mean you either want to push for the cup or just sit idle and build through draft. You cant push to be a cup contender while also not trading picks and prospects because of the future. You either have to think of present or the future not both. This is what separates a cup contender and a pretender trying to be a contender. Tampa is a team that spends to win cups. Then we have some teams that arent all in it.

Jets do not have the cap space to add Miller. We are technical over it right now and will have to shed some cash when Wheeler gets back.

Also Cole is on the roster and looks pretty darn good with Conner and Dubois. He's helping the team and doing it on his ELC which is what cap teams need. Good young players making minimal dollars so that they can spend their cap space on other areas of need.

If your looking for a prospect from the Jets it will likely come from LD where we are deep both on the roster and in the system.

In the end we don't make good trading partners.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Miller for Perfetti and Heinola

Ummm. Jets say no faster than you can blink

 

[surixon]

Tampa did move Cal Foote and a pick for I think it was Coleman and they also got Goodrow in another trade. Those players were really important for them in winning the cup. Now Miller is even a more impact player, basically a core player for Canucks. You dont usually get that type of player with terms and low caphit on the deadline. He is a premium player which requires a premium price amd the price is set by the team that values him most to give up the rquired pieces. If thats too rich for other teams, then it means they wont bid on him. Its all about which team is the most ready and want the cup that badly to pay for Miller. Imagine a team like FLA getting him with retention, it would probably be lights out for the rest of the league.

Your thinking the wrong Foote, they traded Nolan Foote and he isn't in the same stratosphere of a prospect as Perfetti is.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Tampa did move Cal Foote and a pick for I think it was Coleman and they also got Goodrow in another trade. Those players were really important for them in winning the cup. Now Miller is even a more impact player, basically a core player for Canucks. You dont usually get that type of player with terms and low caphit on the deadline. He is a premium player which requires a premium price amd the price is set by the team that values him most to give up the rquired pieces. If thats too rich for other teams, then it means they wont bid on him. Its all about which team is the most ready and want the cup that badly to pay for Miller. Imagine a team like FLA getting him with retention, it would probably be lights out for the rest of the league.

I think you'd find a similar response from Florida fans to the suggestion of Lundell for Miller.

We'll see how it plays out. Maybe Miller is that unique that the norms don't apply. I find it doubtful that any team that has a true premium piece will put that on the table for him. Vancouver balking and either trading him for less next deadline or using him as an own rental is the more likely scenario, imo.

 

[Fatass]

Matt Sekeras!

 

[jetsforever]

Miller is great but I'm not really interested in acquiring him at much cost.

 

[PettersonHughes]

I’d rather they traded for Boeser

In either JT or Brock's case I'd ask for Logan Stanley plus one of the Jets' young prospect C's (maybe not Perfetti if the Jets refuse to trade him). That or DeMelo plus a young prospect C with upside, and given the cost to acquire a #1 C/ bonafide 1st liner that's the price to get them.

 

[Mal Reynolds]

Admittedly haven't read through the thread but seems like an odd fit tbh. Jets seem fairly strong down the middle (Scheifele, Dubois, Copp, Lowry, Stastny and even Wheeler all have experience at center) and aren't lacking for top line wing talent either. Where they are weak, imo, is their depth up front.

Should they decide to go for it, they might be far better off targeting more of a middle six type, which would be far cheaper to acquire. Just a random outsider's 2 cents....

 

[Canadian Canuck]

where are the jets going to get the money to resign jt miller?

Andrew Copp leaving, making a trade etc. lots of ways.

 

[gojetsgo]

Andrew Copp leaving, making a trade etc. lots of ways.

pld needs a new contract which is gonna be big so that will take all the copp money then we either need to sign or replace stastny, bottom line is we need young star players on elc's

 

[thai jet]

Miller for Dubois

No chance. The Jet's brass could be about done with Schiefme's act though. That would be a straight up deal.