Lindholm's upside wasn't top 10 defender in the world at Marner's stage. Yeah he's great but let's not discount the fact that Marner's arguably a top 3 prospect on the planet right now.
Proposal: Marner for Lindholm
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Lindholm's upside wasn't top 10 defender in the world at Marner's stage. Yeah he's great but let's not discount the fact that Marner's arguably a top 3 prospect on the planet right now.
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Anaheim is sure going to need such a possession dynamo with Carlyle as their new coach, they better hurry up and sign him.
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Marner really stood out each time. Still a bit bumpy, but he showed flashes of elite ability and definitely looked like he belonged. Very smart player, fast, skilled. I'd love to have him on my team and I'd be willing to pay Lindholm in return -- only if Lindholm is absolutely impossible to sign.
On the flipside, Toronto already has Rielly. Lindholm IMO is fairly better now, and also I think has the slight edge long-term as far as potential goes, but that's not to say Rielly can't become a totally legit 1D. They're both lefties, so I don't see Toronto making this trade at all.
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If lindholm was an RHD I'd do it.
But since he isn't, no thanks.
Marner looks like a star, though lindholm is one.
But since he isn't, no thanks.
Marner looks like a star, though lindholm is one.
You don't trade a young number one D for a prospect, unless it's Mathews, Mcdavid or Eichel. Larsson got Hall, remember. If Marner becomes Hall like he'd be seen as a huge success, yet, Hall only got Larsson, a 2nd pairing D at best.
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Not sure why everyone brings up the Hall trade. The entire hockey world views that as Edmonton getting ripped off big time.
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Another young defenseman trade Jones for Johansen. We have seen how much good young defenseman went for and Lindholm is better then each of those.
I thought Columbus got bent over in that trade though
Jones has tons more potential than Larsson. Larsson could be compared to Carl Gunnarson. He's younger and likely better but the fact that comparison can even be made is huge. Johansen has struggled mightily with conditioning and motivation ever since he signed his big contract. It's always interesting to see how some players change after a big contract. Long term I like that deal for CBJ. Jones will be a top pairing Dman for a long time. You also don't trade Jones for Larsson. I don't think anyone makes that deal.
I never said he didn't. I think Jones has more upside than larsson, right now they're probably pretty close but in the long run, yeah I'd take Jones. I also would rather have Johansen over hall.
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Getting lindholm means that 1st is likely going to be middle of the pack pick at best, unless you guys have massive injury problems.
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Doubt that Murray wants picks, He will want someone that can help him win now. Can't see Murray losing Lindholm and not getting back someone who could definitely help the offense and that would definitely be Marner.
Well that's a no brainer. Leafs would be targeting a dman and they'd be thrilled if he was in the same league as Lindholm. I'd do unprotected first + Nylander+ cap dump but I'm sure most leafs fans would think that was a massive overpayment but you add Lindholm to this team and they're definitely not drafting in the top 5
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To be honest, I've had very limited viewings of Lindholm. If he's a up and coming true #1D, the leafs would have to think real long and hard about it if that's the case.
Question for Ducks fans and this is from just stat looking and I understand that offense isn't everything but:
During Lindholm's 3 years, he's been relatively flat in points scored. Last year was actually his worst year with 28 points and with 54% of his points coming from the PP. Compared to only 22% of his points coming from the PP in years 1 and 2 where he scored 30 and 34 points respectively.
Is his defensive abilities just uncanny and we can overlook the fact that his offense (points) have flat lined?
Question for Ducks fans and this is from just stat looking and I understand that offense isn't everything but:
During Lindholm's 3 years, he's been relatively flat in points scored. Last year was actually his worst year with 28 points and with 54% of his points coming from the PP. Compared to only 22% of his points coming from the PP in years 1 and 2 where he scored 30 and 34 points respectively.
Is his defensive abilities just uncanny and we can overlook the fact that his offense (points) have flat lined?
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And Johansen is a big #1C. Regardless good young defenseman have been traded for a good proven player that is the point.
Last year he set a career high in goals and his power play production was best. The team had trouble scoring outside of the power play so his production outside of it dropped. If the Ducks had been better outside the power play he would probably of set career highs in points. That was a career low in points and the year before he had more then his 1st year.
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I think last year he had one of the lowest teammate shooting percentage in the league at 5 on 5 when he was on the ice. I'd say it was more of a fluke last year.
That being said he's not ever going to lead dmen in offense and will always be known for what he brings defensively.
I never argued that I argued the fact that everyone uses Hall for Larsson as the barometer which is ridiculous. That point still stands.
