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Not the same level of warriors.
Yeah, the players we have now are on a much higher level.
Boston was limping off the ice that series, they were being crushed and even injured cleanly.
Lol, what are you talking about? No they weren't. None of their forwards missed a game to injury in that series, and I believe only Redden and Ference experienced minor injuries on the back-end, and those weren't even noticeable injuries from something we did. Outside of a couple fighters like Orr, 90% of that team would be considered soft marshmallows by our fans if they were acquired today, so I'm not even sure what warriors exactly you're referring to.
You have a very well documented consistent pro Dubas / Keefe / Team construction / Play style etc stance.
Wrong again. The only well documented consistent stance I have is pro facts and truth.
 
He should definitely forget about playing defensively to chase the dump ins. He has only allowed 1 5x5 goal against all series so let everyone else worry about shit like that. That includes the zone exits. He needs to chase the puck and get it to the champion playmaker guys in the ozone so we can score more.

That's a fine opinion to have. It's produced those stats this round but will it against Boston? You know what Boston is going to bring at us right? I mean, really, you know what is coming our way right? lol
 
Yeah, the players we have now are on a much higher level.
Yes which is concerning that they haven't won a series yet. Now they did add the missing truculence and seem to be on the right track. Thanks for admitting Dubas was at fault for this.
Lol, what are you talking about? No they weren't. None of their forwards missed a game to injury in that series, and I believe only Redden and Ference experienced minor injuries on the back-end, and those weren't even noticeable injuries from something we did. Outside of a couple fighters like Orr, 90% of that team would be considered soft marshmallows by our fans if they were acquired today, so I'm not even sure what warriors exactly you're referring to.
They admitted they were playing banged up and injured. It's documented in interviews. There were a lot of crushing hits by the Leafs in that series.
Wrong again. The only well documented consistent stance I have is pro facts and truth.
I wager you would lose in a poll on this. Some people even call you Dekes for Dubas which is funny but I don't get into that. I just want to win and play winning hockey and win the cup.

My deal is get real and win a cup.
 
Wtf are you worrying about Boston right now and why is the Leafs potential loss Marners fault?

Simply put. I have found our top players to lack intensity, drive and presence for long periods of time during this series. ROR has been the more impactful player and had probably been the main catalyst to us staying in and winning games against Tampa.

I don't feel our core has been as good as they need to be going forward. It's got to change because Boston would destroy us as is. Had we lost the last game, the narrative would be more along the lines of are we good enough, etc etc etc.
 
Draisaitl ahead of Marner now? If only Marner cheated as much as Drai did for offense.

Sure, if looking at total points, but it's really not an even comparison...Edmonton probably would have gotten swept by Tampa Bay already if they are playing TB in the first round.
 
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Simply put. I have found our top players to lack intensity, drive and presence for long periods of time during this series. ROR has been the more impactful player and had probably been the main catalyst to us staying in and winning games against Tampa.

I don't feel our core has been as good as they need to be going forward. It's got to change because Boston would destroy us as is. Had we lost the last game, the narrative would be more along the lines of are we good enough, etc etc etc.
That's why Marner is putting all those minutes in while RoR rides the pine?
GTFO. Ror has been good but Tampa ain't putting their focus on him.
 
Yes which is concerning that they haven't won a series yet. Now they did add the missing truculence and seem to be on the right track. Thanks for admitting Dubas was at fault for this.
It's unfortunate that we haven't won a cup yet, but that really has zero relevance to this year and right now. And that doesn't make the 2013 Leafs - who didn't win anything either - a better team or better warriors. Dubas has added "truculence" throughout his entire time as GM, and our level of truculence doesn't really have anything to do with why we've lost. Your argument also contradicts itself. Have we been bad this series, getting outplayed and winning with "statistically improbable" flukes, or are we "on the right track"?
They admitted they were playing banged up and injured. It's documented in interviews.
They admitted they were playing banged up... in the cup finals... because of stuff that happened after facing us. They were pretty healthy through our series, and the rare injuries that did occur in our series were minor and weren't noticeably caused by us.
And still no actual mention of who exactly all these supposed better warriors were...
There were a lot of crushing hits by the Leafs in that series.
There are crushing hits by both teams in every series every year. It's the playoffs.
Some people even call you Dekes for Dubas which is funny but I don't get into that.
Yes, I'm aware that some people resort to name-calling and insults when they can't produce an actual substantiated argument.
It's funny how you "don't get into that", and yet are essentially doing exactly that - repeating insults and misrepresenting my stances on unrelated matters in an attempt to dismiss the facts I have provided to you on the matter being currently discussed. Not really sure what Dubas has to do with this in the first place. This was about Marner. Marner has been excellent in this series in pretty much every way, and literally everything supports that fact.
 
Sure, if looking at total points, but it's really not an even comparison...Edmonton probably would have gotten swept by Tampa Bay already if they are playing TB in the first round.
Not true. I like looking at Record / GF / GA / DIFF. Edmonton has one of the highest DIFFs and GF in the league. It's a good team capable of going all the way.,
That's why Marner is putting all those minutes in while RoR rides the pine?
GTFO. Ror has been good but Tampa ain't putting their focus on him.
He is productive in spurts, yes. The core has been productive in spurts and the core has hung in there playing defense, overcoming deficits in the 3rd period etc.
It's unfortunate that we haven't won a cup yet, but that really has zero relevance to this year and right now. And that doesn't make the 2013 Leafs - who didn't win anything either - a better team or better warriors. Dubas has added "truculence" throughout his entire time as GM, and our level of truculence doesn't really have anything to do with why we've lost. Your argument also contradicts itself. Have we been bad this series, getting outplayed and winning with "statistically improbable" flukes, or are we "on the right track"?
Forget about the cup, not a series under Dubas. Looks like we are going to get that this time around though. Thank goodness he dropped NuHockey finally. I am glad you support his position and that he himself defacto admitted he was wrong by making the changes.
They admitted they were playing banged up... in the cup finals... because of stuff that happened after facing us. They were pretty healthy through our series, and the rare injuries that did occur in our series were minor and weren't noticeably caused by us.
And still no actual mention of who exactly all these supposed better warriors were...
I think it's time for you to seek the archives and watch a 2013 playoff game. You will see the difference.
There are crushing hits by both teams in every series every year. It's the playoffs.
Seldom in this series, game 1 was better but Wes called everything, guys a joke.
Yes, I'm aware that some people resort to name-calling and insults when they can't produce an actual substantiated argument.
Just saying a lot of people here feel you support management no matter the case and for it your views have been considered bias.
It's funny how you "don't get into that", and yet are essentially doing exactly that - repeating insults and misrepresenting my stances on unrelated matters in an attempt to dismiss the facts I have provided to you on the matter being currently discussed. Not really sure what Dubas has to do with this in the first place. This was about Marner. Marner has been excellent in this series in pretty much every way, and literally everything supports that fact.
No I was just demonstrating what is said. I didn't misrepresent anything really and sometimes if not often your facts are actually opinions more than facts. See you said Marner has been excellent, its opinion not fact. The whole team has not had a great series and could have easily lost the last two games.
 
Can you take your blanket nonsense to another thread, I fail to see how this isn’t off topic? What next, the Gretzky non call?
 
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Not true. I like looking at Record / GF / GA / DIFF. Edmonton has one of the highest DIFFs and GF in the league. It's a good team capable of going all the way.,
Edmonton plays in the Western Conference, which is the weaker conference...they would be in a battle to make the playoffs if they were playing in the East, while teams like Buffalo and Pittsburg would probably make the playoffs if they were in the West.
 
Edmonton plays in the Western Conference, which is the weaker conference...they would be in a battle to make the playoffs if they were playing in the East, while teams like Buffalo and Pittsburg would probably make the playoffs if they were in the West.

325GF season is tops, next to 304 for Boston. You don't just fluke that thing over the full season. It's why I like the stat. Raw production is important. Even if you correct for quality of competition, it probably still puts them near the top of the league.

Leafs 279 v Tampa 283 GF. Explain that one though the diff is arguably more important.
 
325GF season is tops, next to 304 for Boston. You don't just fluke that thing over the full season. It's why I like the stat. Raw production is important. Even if you correct for quality of competition, it probably still puts them near the top of the league.

Yes, mostly against weaker Western Conference teams, what don't you understand? By that logic, Edmonton should be better than Boston. Edmonton was terrible to mediocre for most of the season...they surged into the playoffs after getting Ekholm and playing a bunch of weak Western Conference teams down the stretch to close out the regular season.
 
Yes, mostly against weaker Western Conference teams, what don't you understand? By that logic, Edmonton should be better than Boston. Edmonton was terrible to mediocre for most of the season...they surged into the playoffs after getting Ekholm and playing a bunch of weak Western Conference teams down the stretch to close out the regular season.

It doesn't matter how they get in, it's what they do when they get in there. Remember the LA run? They were lucky to be in the PO and stormed through everyone.
 
It doesn't matter how they get in, it's what they do when they get in there. Remember the LA run? They were lucky to be in the PO and stormed through everyone.

You're changing the subject, but I'll stop debating this further in this Marner appreciation thread.
 
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You're changing the subject, but I'll stop debating this further in this Marner appreciation thread.

Fair enough we all went off topic a bit.

Marner has had an excellent run putting up points v Tampa. I respect the production.
 
Forget about the cup, not a series under Dubas. Looks like we are going to get that this time around though. Thank goodness he dropped NuHockey finally. I am glad you support his position and that he himself defacto admitted he was wrong by making the changes.
Forget about the cup? The cup is what matters. 2013 Leafs didn't win a series either, so changes nothing.

"NuHockey" isn't a word. Not sure what you think it means, but Dubas wasn't wrong and he hasn't really changed anything about the way he builds his team and the type of players he looks to acquire at the deadline. The main difference this year is that league-wide situations made more (and a player like O'Rielly) available to buy, and our team situation (and a masterful addition of McCabe to replace our previous shutdown defenseman for less than half the price) gave us more space to add more than usual, in a year where we were dominant enough to justify the asset expenditures.

Again, have we been bad this series, getting outplayed and winning with "statistically improbable" flukes, or are we "on the right track"? You seem to be trying to argue both simultaneously.
I think it's time for you to seek the archives and watch a 2013 playoff game. You will see the difference.
I have watched the 2013 series. There is a difference. We're a much better team now in pretty much every way possible. And fact is, Boston came out of that series pretty healthy. The fact that you can't even name these "warriors" is pretty illuminating. Was it Gardiner? Maybe Liles? Or Kessel? Macarthur? The great Joe Colborne?
Seldom in this series
Huh? We've had a ton in this series.
Just saying a lot of people here feel you support management no matter the case and for it your views have been considered bias.
No I was just demonstrating what is said. I didn't misrepresent anything really and sometimes if not often your facts are actually opinions more than facts. See you said Marner has been excellent, its opinion not fact. The whole team has not had a great series and could have easily lost the last two games.
No, a select few people on this site who have a deep-rooted hatred of management have convinced themselves of that incorrect belief, and believe that anybody who justifiably doesn't hold the same thoughts about Dubas is biased. Now you are spreading those fringe false comments and insults that don't even have anything to do with our current discussion. If you're claiming to "not get into that", then stop getting into it.

The team as a whole has not been perfect this series, but we have outplayed and outscored Tampa over the series, we are up 3-1, and Marner has factually been excellent and the least of our worries in pretty much every possible way, according to the eye test and every possible measure.
 
Marner looks to be skating on a line with Tavares and Knies at practice.



I usuallly like Matthews-Marner together, but I think this has the potential to be something. Was put together during last game, and in their short time, have a 69.3 xGF% together. Gives Marner two players to pass to that like playing around the net.

Probably best opportunity for Knies to get a goal. Can't even imagine what a lift for the team that would be.
 
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These are the lines I’ve been waiting for… IMO, these are two #1 lines and our 3rd is a genuine #2 line.

And a rookie playing top 6… what a team we have… I expect us to finish Tampa tomorrow and Marner take his points lead back.

No other team has this level of depth.
 
Marner looks to be skating on a line with Tavares and Knies at practice.



I usuallly like Matthews-Marner together, but I think this has the potential to be something. Was put together during last game, and in their short time, have a 69.3 xGF% together. Gives Marner two players to pass to that like playing around the net.

Probably best opportunity for Knies to get a goal. Can't even imagine what a lift for the team that would be.


It's for the best.

It was needed and I am glad Keefe is making some changes. Winning by the hair of your chinny chin chin is exciting but not what a real hockey team wants to make a habit out of.
 
New lines make sense to me Keefer .. JT needs da puck support and defense from Mitch .. and Knies can forecheck some loose pucks to JT net front .. we can't keep getting tilted every game by JT's line .. it was a running joke in Tampa how bad JT's line was .. like I have always said JT and Willy is like oil and water it will never ever mix .. Willy needs to play with faster players his game is built on speed to have success .. I like these changes although he started in game 4 as a few of us Leaf fans started screaming at him to do it .. Keefer do not insert Bunting in game 5 .. go with da team that won 3 straight da big guy
 
Draisaitl ahead of Marner now? If only Marner cheated as much as Drai did for offense.
Drai is nowhere near as good as Marner in a 200ft game but if you have watched the series he is not cheating for offense. He is simply the best player in the series so far
 
New lines make sense to me Keefer .. JT needs da puck support and defense from Mitch .. and Knies can forecheck some loose pucks to JT net front .. we can't keep getting tilted every game by JT's line .. it was a running joke in Tampa how bad JT's line was .. like I have always said JT and Willy is like oil and water it will never ever mix .. Willy needs to play with faster players his game is built on speed to have success .. I like these changes although he started in game 4 as a few of us Leaf fans started screaming at him to do it .. Keefer do not insert Bunting in game 5 .. go with da team that won 3 straight da big guy

Agree 100% about this. If we had 2 top lines actually competing it wouldn't be so easy to dominate the majority of play every game. I think this will do the trick and get the team firing on all cylinders. Maybe if it works out these guys here in this thread will get it.
 
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