Tribute Marner Appreciation Thread

[Notsince67]

Marner is a lightening rod for criticism because he is a bit emotionally immature. On most nights he can pull you out of your seat with his dazzling skills. On other nights though he can make you turn off the television in disgust. I think if he simplified his game he would be even more devastating - same for all of the offensive dynamos on this team.

Getting Marner fifth overall was one of the better decisions this franchise made and it cannot be overstated considering how many high profile misses the organization has had (Luke Schenn for example).

Obviously I am not happy with this team consistently bowing out in the first round, but it is certainly preferable to those barren eras where we had to rely on other team's scraps and left overs to barely contend for the last playoff spot. For once the Leafs have a core of strong players that they have drafted and developed - Morgan Reilly, Mitch Marner, Auston Matthews, Rasmus Sandin, Timothy Lilgren, Pierre Engvall, William Nylander, etc.

The fanbase is a bit emotionally immature. This is a tough league. What separates the wheat from the chaff is to perform at an elevated level over a long time. Although Marner is trending for 100 pts tonight, it isn't even a career pace for him. His development curve continues to find new horizons with his defensive game continting to improve. Elite defensive numbers with a top 10 point pace is indicative of an absolutely elite player. Spending time to try and knock him down by qualifying his value by stating playoff caveats (even though he he was great last post season) is a sign of childish temperament and leaves little to like about a person purposefully attempting to arrogantly judge how their petty needs for good faith affirment have not been met. Not criticizing you but some of the obtuse commentators on this forum are a constant reminder of how bratty assholes are plentiful

 

[ACC1224]

I'm running out of superlatives.

Can always use 'Super Elite' or 'Gretzyesque'

 

[DarkKnight]

The fanbase is a bit emotionally immature. This is a tough league. What separates the wheat from the chaff is to perform at an elevated level over a long time. Although Marner is trending for 100 pts tonight, it isn't even a career pace for him. His development curve continues to find new horizons with his defensive game continting to improve. Elite defensive numbers with a top 10 point pace is indicative of an absolutely elite player. Spending time to try and knock him down by qualifying his value by stating playoff caveats (even though he he was great last post season) is a sign of childish temperament and leaves little to like about a person purposefully attempting to arrogantly judge how their petty needs for good faith affirment have not been met. Not criticizing you but some of the obtuse commentators on this forum are a constant reminder of how bratty assholes are plentiful

If he’s emotionally immature, why do old guys like Muzzin and Gio gravitate towards him and hang out. It isn’t true, he’s competitive and he shows his emotions, he’s a very mature, level headed, wise, man. Obviously.

 

[Notsince67]

If he’s emotionally immature, why do old guys like Muzzin and Gio gravitate towards him and hang out. It isn’t true, he’s competitive and he shows his emotions, he’s a very mature, level headed, wise, man. Obviously.

Don't forget unselfish and smarter that Gretzky

 

[DarkKnight]

Don't forget unselfish and smarter that Gretzky

Funny how the trolls disappear. Must be hard to watch being a Marner hater.

Feels great, more please.

Top ten in scoring now.

 

[Gary Nylund]

he’s shown time and time again that he is a force in the regular season.

He’s shown from time-to-time he can be amazing in the playoffs

I think he’s gonna be huge this post season, just a gut feeling

He's been pretty consistently great since the start of last season, including the playoffs so there's no reason whatsoever for him to be anything but great in the playoffs

Marner first in league in takeaways with 77, next closest is 11 back. Unreal.

I generally don't care much for stats, especially regular season stats. That said, this one I like and perhaps is the best example of what people are talking about when they say what a smart player he is. It might not be as exciting as watching a goal being scored or whatever else but watching Marner's stickwork while taking the puck away from someone is a thing of beauty. I'm surprised he only has 77, not sure what qualifies as a takeaway but I would have guessed a higher number.

There was a sizeable faction that wanted him gone at the end of October. I'm not sold quite yet on JT on the wing but I really expect to see some great chemistry between Mitch and ROR.

The way people overreact to early season whatevers is ridiculous. And don't worry about JT, he'll be fine.

Marner is a lightening rod for criticism because he is a bit emotionally immature. On most nights he can pull you out of your seat with his dazzling skills. On other nights though he can make you turn off the television in disgust. I think if he simplified his game he would be even more devastating - same for all of the offensive dynamos on this team.

Getting Marner fifth overall was one of the better decisions this franchise made and it cannot be overstated considering how many high profile misses the organization has had (Luke Schenn for example).

Obviously I am not happy with this team consistently bowing out in the first round, but it is certainly preferable to those barren eras where we had to rely on other team's scraps and left overs to barely contend for the last playoff spot. For once the Leafs have a core of strong players that they have drafted and developed - Morgan Reilly, Mitch Marner, Auston Matthews, Rasmus Sandin, Timothy Lilgren, Pierre Engvall, William Nylander, etc.

Pretty sure Marner went 4th, not 5th. It's a paradox isn't it? Really good core players, yet they keep failing. in the playoffs. You'd think their last chance is coming this spring but then again, making a major change after losing to MTL seemed sensible to who knows.

Don't forget unselfish and smarter that Gretzky

Faster than McDavid.

 

[Sypher04]

Marner first in league in takeaways with 77, next closest is 11 back. Unreal.

Awesome stat. Also cool to see that Matthews, Marner and Nylander are all in the top 12. Kampf is 26

 

[Gary Nylund]

Like I said his first year. This is a generational player. I said he was the second best player in his draft. He is Magic.

Generational player is perhaps a bit much, I'd just go with franchise player but whatever. Rantanen is pretty good too but yeah, there's no doubt anymore that Marner>>Eichel.

Funny how the trolls disappear. Must be hard to watch being a Marner hater.

Feels great, more please.

Top ten in scoring now.

Just top 10, really? From the way you worship him, you'd think he'd be leading the league by 30 points minimum.

Awesome stat. Also cool to see that Matthews, Marner and Nylander are all in the top 12

Really? Wow, that is super cool! Link?

 

[Sypher04]

Generational player is perhaps a bit much, I'd just go with franchise player but whatever. Rantanen is pretty good too but yeah, there's no doubt anymore that Marner>>Eichel.


Just top 10, really? From the way you worship him, you'd think he'd be leading the league by 30 points minimum.


Really? Wow, that is super cool! Link?

I think this will work right to what I filtered, but just in case, it’s under miscellaneous and ranked by takeaways:

NHL Stats

The official source for NHL Stats including skaters, goalies, teams stats and more.

www.nhl.com

 

[DarkKnight]

Awesome stat. Also cool to see that Matthews, Marner and Nylander are all in the top 12. Kampf is 26

We are by far the best team at takeaways. It’s awesome.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I think this will work right to what I filtered, but just in case, it’s under miscellaneous and ranked by takeaways:

NHL Stats

The official source for NHL Stats including skaters, goalies, teams stats and more.

www.nhl.com

Cool thanks, bookmarking this site now. I see Nylander 8th, Matthews 11th and Kampf 26th.

Then I filtered for 40+ games played and sorted by takeaways per 60 minutes played. Marner tied for 1st, Nylander 9th, Matthews 14th and Kampf moves up to 15th. Next Maple Leaf is Kerfoot 56th.

Not surprised to see Marner leading the league, surprising to see the others so high. Not sure how meaningful all this is, it is kind of cool though. I hope it helps us finally have some playoff success in the spring.

 

[Notsince67]

Generational player is perhaps a bit much, I'd just go with franchise player but whatever. Rantanen is pretty good too but yeah, there's no doubt anymore that Marner>>Eichel.


Just top 10, really? From the way you worship him, you'd think he'd be leading the league by 30 points minimum.


Really? Wow, that is super cool! Link?

So top 10 is the approximately the top 1.5%
Top 7 is around the top 1% (where he is)

In takeaways he is the top .1%

What this means is that there is a .32% chance that a team has anyone who has produced as much as a scorer and a 0 percent chance of having one that is better at takeaways.

Not enough?

 

[DarkKnight]

Generational player is perhaps a bit much, I'd just go with franchise player but whatever. Rantanen is pretty good too but yeah, there's no doubt anymore that Marner>>Eichel.


Just top 10, really? From the way you worship him, you'd think he'd be leading the league by 30 points minimum.


Really? Wow, that is super cool! Link?

You just prove over and over why I ignore your pedestrian garbage. Cheers. And no I won’t be responding to you lastwordism.

 

[hotpaws]

Marner's a pleasure to watch and he shows the fans how an elite playmaker elevates the players on his line .

 

[Gary Nylund]

So top 10 is the approximately the top 1.5%
Top 7 is around the top 1% (where he is)

In takeaways he is the top .1%

What this means is that there is a .32% chance that a team has anyone who has produced as much as a scorer and a 0 percent chance of having one that is better at takeaways.

Not enough?

What do you mean not enough, what kind of question is that? Not enough for what exactly?

You just prove over and over why I ignore your pedestrian garbage. Cheers. And no I won’t be responding to you lastwordism.

If you have nothing meaningful to say, not responding is probably a good idea. I do hope you cheer up though.

 

[Notsince67]

What do you mean not enough, what kind of question is that? Not enough for what exactly?

If you have nothing meaningful to say, not responding is probably a good idea. I do hope you cheer up though.

Obtuse as usual I see.
Let me spell it out... it isn't the 30 goal differential you indicated as a floor to be excited on.

 

[ACC1224]

You just prove over and over why I ignore your pedestrian garbage. Cheers. And no I won’t be responding to you lastwordism.

It's crazy how miserable some can be but it's certainly easy to ignore it.

 

[DarkKnight]

It's crazy how miserable some can be but it's certainly easy to ignore it.

And he tells me to cheer up lol. You can’t make this shit up.

 

[weems]

We are by far the best team at takeaways. It’s awesome.

 

[weems]

We actually have 3 of the top 7 takeaway artists when you look 5 v 5

 

[saltming]

Marner with Tavares and ROR: the way those two play makes space for Marner. Smallest gap but Mitch is a magician and in that gap he's going to dazzle.
Teams could focus on Mitch and Matthews or Tavares, whichever lineup was in play but the subtle things Tavares and ROR do just make defenders move slightly out of position.
Like on ROR second goal, when he passed the puck to Mitch he waved his stick at the defender which caused a reaction which increased the gap between him and Marner by a hair but also took the defenders stick out of position opening the passing lane

https://www.nhl.com/maple leafs/video/oreilly-lights-lamp-again/t-277350912/c-15429209

 

[Larcos_Unal]

MVP MVP MVP
Not only is this guy an elite playmaker, he's a monster on the PK...just unreal.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Give Mitch his dues .. he was best player on ice last night by 20 country miles .. complete and total domination of that game .. and it was not just his offense .. his defense was top end too

 

[Leaf Rocket]

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I love skill but the thing I love the most is the hustle and the defense thats what makes me even happier.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Obtuse as usual I see.
Let me spell it out... it isn't the 30 goal differential you indicated as a floor to be excited on.

I haven't said anything about a "30 goal differential". You're not making sense, sorry.

MVP MVP MVP
Not only is this guy an elite playmaker, he's a monster on the PK...just unreal.

Setting up goals (and scoring) is great of course, but PK is my favorite time to watch him. Not since Gretzky has there been a player that's made PK so interesting to watch. Perhaps I'm missing someone, but Gretzky's the last one I can think of anyway.

The three players I've seen during my 50+ years of watching hockey who have made killing penalties an art, and a ton of fun to watch - Orr, Gretzky and Marner. That's some pretty good company to be in, doesn't get any better than that.

I love skill but the thing I love the most is the hustle and the defense thats what makes me even happier.

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