Tribute Marner Appreciation Thread

[hamzarocks]

I appreciate him but he should have about 15-20 more pts to justify the pay.

Matthews should have 20 to 25 to justify his I guess took

And JT closer to 40

 

[LeafsNation75]

...this is an NHL.com article right before the all star game, what do you think his assignment was? They are going to publish something saying Marner sucks right before the all star game.

If they were going to publish something that says Marner sucks before the All Star Game I'm sure you would have been contacted to write that article, because it's what you keep doing on an appreciation thread about hinm.

 

[Antropovsky]

If they were going to publish something that says Marner sucks before the All Star Game I'm sure you would have been contacted to write that article, because it's what you keep doing on an appreciation thread about hinm.

I can show you two articles written that indicate Marners advanced stats don't indicate he's elite. That I didn't write. Can you shoe me the advanced state that show he is?

You still haven't answered my question.

What's your thoughts on Marner being 34th in the entire league in points/60. That's elite to you?

 

[LeafsNation75]

I can show you two articles written that indicate Marners advanced stats don't indicate he's elite. That I didn't write. Can you shoe me the advanced state that show he is?

You still haven't answered my question.

What's your thoughts on Marner being 34th in the entire league in points/60. That's elite to you?

Honestly, I'm not into these stats like points/60. Instead, I look at other numbers like Marner currently being at 1.15 PPG through 52 games this season. That in my opinion says he's elite.

 

[horner]

I remember in Tavares introduction press conference after he signed on July 1, 2018, Dubas said one of the reasons he signed in Toronto was the players he would be playing with and I assume Marner's name was brought up.

Didn't mean to diminish mathews or Nylander. I assume he meant all three but when someone brings bullshit your back gets up for said player.

Honestly, I'm not into these stats like points/60. Instead, I look at other numbers like Marner currently being at 1.15 PPG through 52 games this season. That in my opinion says he's elite.

His elite defensive game .

 

[LeafsNation75]

Didn't mean to diminish mathews or Nylander. I assume he meant all three but when someone brings bullshit your back gets up for said player.


His elite defensive game .

Maybe I'm wrong but didn't Babcock say right after Tavares signed that him and Marner were going to be on the same line together at 5v5?

Without a doubt his defensive game is elite. Last year when Toronto lead the NHL with 13 shorthanded goals, Marner had 3 of them and so far this season he's scored 2 shorthanded goals.

 

[horner]

I can show you two articles written that indicate Marners advanced stats don't indicate he's elite. That I didn't write. Can you shoe me the advanced state that show he is?

You still haven't answered my question.

What's your thoughts on Marner being 34th in the entire league in points/60. That's elite to you?

The whole leaf team was playing a more conserted effort towards there defensive .
Iam sure you have noticed that?
They have slide recently.

You Remember a player named Yzerman top scorer in the the became defensive elite didn't worry about point then started winning.

 

[LeafsNation75]

 

[LeafsNation75]

Mitch Marner responds to Nazem Kadri’s chirps with six assists in NHL all-star victory

Kadri, the Calgary Flames centre whose Pacific Division team was eliminated early, spent some time catching up with his former Leafs teammate over the weekend.

www.thestar.com

 

[DarkKnight]

Man, sure seems like Marner made a great impression at the All-Star game, everyone loved him. Makes the lame detractors here look even more, well, lame.

 

[Nineteen67]

As the season goes on he becomes more of a must watch player.

 

[Arzak]

Man, sure seems like Marner made a great impression at the All-Star game, everyone loved him. Makes the lame detractors here look even more, well, lame.

You are reaching.




There is no denying he is great for the no-touch All-Star game, not even Marner haters disputed that, it's the exact opposite of the Playoff game he lacks ...

Name a player that looked bad at the All-Star game

If the All-star game was any watchable I would re-watch it to see what impressed you, as it stands I only remember his failed gove attempt on Luongo..


PS:Lame is using All-Star game/event as any indicator at all.

 

[Dekes For Days]

This shouldn't need to be said, but looking at all situations points per 60 is not how you utilize per 60 metrics.
For the record, it's essentially punishing Marner for his elite PKing, and counting it as a negative.

 

[ULF_55]

This shouldn't need to be said, but looking at all situations points per 60 is not how you utilize per 60 metrics.
For the record, it's essentially punishing Marner for his elite PKing, and counting it as a negative.

Using PK time would be no different than including PP time. It would tell you something, but not exactly meaningful.

Be like comparing two players, one who plays with Kerfoot and one who plays with Matthews and focusing on assists.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Using PK time would be no different than including PP time. It would tell you something, but not exactly meaningful.

Game states should be looked at separately, obviously, but all of the top players at least play PP time. The different distributions would skew results, but that pales in comparison to the amount that Marner would be hurt by including PK time, since most top players don't play in that lower producing game state.

 

[Notsince67]

Here is a sportsnet article from Berkshire from that 94 point campaign with Tavares.


Sportsnet.ca NHL author Andrew Berkshire joined Starting Lineup to explain why he doesn’t think Mitch Marner is worth Auston Matthews or John Tavares money.

Scoring chances games are a statistic that I look at when calculating a player’s impact offensively. It measures how involved a skater is in creating opportunities for their teammates.


“In forwards, Connor McDavid is number one; Sidney Crosby, second; Auston Matthews, third. At the 12th level, we find John Tavares tied with Sebastian Aho. Then William Nylander at 22e. And, finally, Marner is ranked 26th

A Tavares effect


Berkshire says it’s important not to overlook the “Tavares effect” when looking at the excellent offensive stats of Marner, who had 94 points last season.


“Marner is not the one leading the charge in his trio, it’s Tavares. You have to take into consideration the performances of the Tavares trio mates in the past. Look what happened with Matt Moulson. Anders Lee has seen a drop in [30%] in season-over-season goals scored when Tavares left Long Island. Tavares’ line-mates are having the best seasons of their careers with him, ”he noted

You have already been called out about citing Berkshire yet you persist. Wonder why you feel it necessary to persistently hijack threads with this nonsense.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Marner is a great player and if Matthews doesn't come back, at least they still have one superstar on the team.

If Tavares doesn't come back Marner for Captain?

 

[WillyC]

...this is an NHL.com article right before the all star game, what do you think his assignment was? They are going to publish something saying Marner sucks right before the all star game.

It’s not even possible to write an article where one tries to spin that Mitch Marner sucks… you’re doing the best effort and it’s failing.

Bottom line… Magic Mitch is an All World Elite Talent… and every GM in the NHL would love to have Marner on their team… however, they all know he’s likely a Leaf for life.

 

[DarkKnight]

You are reaching.




There is no denying he is great for the no-touch All-Star game, not even Marner haters disputed that, it's the exact opposite of the Playoff game he lacks ...

Name a player that looked bad at the All-Star game

If the All-star game was any watchable I would re-watch it to see what impressed you, as it stands I only remember his failed gove attempt on Luongo..


PS:Lame is using All-Star game/event as any indicator at all.

I’m talking about his personality, sheesh. Ya I’m judging his game based on the all star game lol.

 

[notDatsyuk]

One thing I noticed in the all star stupidity was how Pastrnak seemed almost lost without his regular linemates, while Mitch was having no trouble at all.

Can we trade JT for Larkin?

 

[Yall are crazy]

Marner was stunning in the all star games.elevTed all his foes who caused his first round exit trauma and ptsd

 

[Antropovsky]

You have already been called out about citing Berkshire yet you persist. Wonder why you feel it necessary to persistently hijack threads with this nonsense.

Btw I was responding to someone who specifically asked about the 94 point season by Marner and asked to compare Tavares role and Marner on that season. So I posted evidence by a sports writer where he says Tavares was the play driver. "as evidence"

Your saying it didn't matter that Marner was 26th while his teammates and other great players were tops in that category? Another flawed stat? Just like he played amazing in the playoffs just met out of this world goaltending?

 

[Antropovsky]

It’s not even possible to write an article where one tries to spin that Mitch Marner sucks… you’re doing the best effort and it’s failing.

Bottom line… Magic Mitch is an All World Elite Talent… and every GM in the NHL would love to have Marner on their team… however, they all know he’s likely a Leaf for life.

...i literally just posted one by Berkshire where he says Marner is the most overrated.

Nobody says he sucks... Hes overrated and overpaid. People want to keep trying the strawman fallacy because its easier to argue against marner sucking vs being overrated.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Btw I was responding to someone who specifically asked about the 94 point season by Marner and asked to compare Tavares role and Marner on that season. So I posted evidence by a sports writer where he says Tavares was the play driver. "as evidence"

Your saying it didn't matter that Marner was 26th while his teammates and other great players were tops in that category? Another flawed stat? Just like he played amazing in the playoffs just met out of this world goaltending?

Yet last season when Marner was with Matthews on his line at 5v5 we saw him record 97 points in 72 games. So, it wasn't just Tavares being a reason why Marner got 90+ points for the second time in a season.

 

[Yall are crazy]

He came because he wanted to play for his childhood team and bc Dubai said he would put mitch specifically on his wing. Mitch gave him a career year that year. It's 2023, that's like 5 years of it being public info

Tavares and his wife are from Toronto...ive never read this rumor about Tavares specifically coming because of Marner.

I can show you two articles written that indicate Marners advanced stats don't indicate he's elite. That I didn't write. Can you shoe me the advanced state that show he is?

You still haven't answered my question.

What's your thoughts on Marner being 34th in the entire league in points/60. That's elite to you?

How salty do you have to be about a celebrity that you try to hijack an appreciation thread? You got a crush or something? Sus

I can show you two articles written that indicate Marners advanced stats don't indicate he's elite. That I didn't write. Can you shoe me the advanced state that show he is?

You still haven't answered my question.

What's your thoughts on Marner being 34th in the entire league in points/60. That's elite to you?

How salty do you have to be about a celebrity that you try to hijack an appreciation thread? You got a crush or something? Sus