Confirmed with Link: Morgan Frost and Joel Farabee traded to Calgary for Andrei Kuzmenko, Jakob Pelletier, 2025 2nd, 2028 7th

Farabee 1+0, -3 after 5 games. Frost is 2+0, -2 in 5... Of course if they look good in the playoffs, it'll be a good trade for Calgary, but Flames first need to make the playoffs.
 
Farabee 1+0, -3 after 5 games. Frost is 2+0, -2 in 5... Of course if they look good in the playoffs, it'll be a good trade for Calgary, but Flames first need to make the playoffs.
Do we have to explain again the +/- isn't a good stat to look at for a player. Yes the points per game isn't great right now but you have to give adjustment time also.


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So I am hearing the team was not happy at all with losing these two from the locker room. Imagine the crater if they move Laughton.
 
Farabee 1+0, -3 after 5 games. Frost is 2+0, -2 in 5... Of course if they look good in the playoffs, it'll be a good trade for Calgary, but Flames first need to make the playoffs.
12/14 Calgary forwards are minus in those 5 games. Backlund and Coleman are both -4.

In those 5 games, Frost and Farabee have registered 3 of the 11 ES points scored by Calgary forwards. It is not a high scoring team.

 
So they’re going to try and flip the guy that was likely going on waivers?



The article did suggest retention, which provides a value add for a contender that isn't there if they just pluck the guy off waivers. My bigger question is "so, you said you wanted a look at this guy in Philly, and we're talking about 7 games? Is that a significant enough look?"
 
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12/14 Calgary forwards are minus in those 5 games. Backlund and Coleman are both -4.

In those 5 games, Frost and Farabee have registered 3 of the 11 ES points scored by Calgary forwards. It is not a high scoring team.


Context is an interesting thing.
 
Do we have to explain again the +/- isn't a good stat to look at for a player. Yes the points per game isn't great right now but you have to give adjustment time also.


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So I am hearing the team was not happy at all with losing these two from the locker room. Imagine the crater if they move Laughton.
imo, the only thing keeping the team from utter collapse was the locker room culture being quite good. The whole team always looked like they were having fun despite playing like shit. Once they kill the locker room theyll be bottom 1.
 
imo, the only thing keeping the team from utter collapse was the locker room culture being quite good. The whole team always looked like they were having fun despite playing like shit. Once they kill the locker room theyll be bottom 1.
That why I mention that the trade of Laughton could crater this room. If they didn't trade Frost/Farabee they probably survive a Laughton deal.
 
That why I mention that the trade of Laughton could crater this room. If they didn't trade Frost/Farabee they probably survive a Laughton deal.
Who cares! When and if this team ultimately becomes a legit contender. A lot of the players in the room won't be here. Culture and the room are two of the most overrated factors in the sport.
 
What the trade Flyers actually need is to trade coaches with the Sharks. That would be such a great trade in many ways. Michkov would start scoring, Celebrini would stop scoring, and the Flyers would lose all their games left...
 
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So they’re going to try and flip the guy that was likely going on waivers? And the guy that WAS on waivers is the prize of the deal?



On waivers you don't retain. We can now and I imagine we'll get at least a mid-round pick for them.

It is a little surprising though. You thought the trade was to give Mich some countrymen...?
 
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Wasn't there a big story about how they had to get him on the phone to talk to him about how they needed him? :laugh:
Briere and Jones talked him into waiving his NTC on the phone but Tortorella couldn’t get him on the phone after the trade was done.

Torts isn’t a phone person. He likes face to face.

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