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Antropovsky said:
Nylander has 8 goals and 15 points in his last 14 playoff games @ 6.9 mill
Marner has 2 goals and 12 points in his last 14 playoff games @ 10.9 mill
..... See a difference? Nylander has .57 gpg average. Meanwhile Marner has 7 goals in his entire playoff career. A .18 gpg career mark.

Matthews was excellent vs Tampa and was dragging Marner all over the ice on his coat tails.

Marner mainly only produced when his linemates served him up points on a platter...giving him tons of space, watch the replays. One his space is taken away, he's completely ineffective.
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Last year in the playoffs Marner had 2 goals, and 6 assists for 8 points while playing on the same line with Matthews.

Mathews might have had more goals (4) and assists (5), however in terms of total points he had 9 which was one more than Marner.

So maybe you should look up their numbers before making a comment like that, which doesn't make you look good or help your argument against Marner.
 
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LeafsNation75 said:
Last year in the playoffs Marner had 2 goals, and 6 assists for 8 points while playing on the same line with Matthews.

Mathews might have had more goals (4) and assists (5), however in terms of total points he had 9 which was one more than Marner.

So maybe you should look up their numbers before making a comment like that, which doesn't make you look good or help your argument against Marner.
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Watch the replays... Matthews was the line drivers and created his points. While Marners benefitted from his linemates play. That's the difference. Points don't tell the whole story...Cheechoo scored 50 goals beside Thornton but he wouldn't have elsewhere. Same can be said about players who collect points on lines with Crosby or McDavid.

Marner is good but not in the class respective to his play. He's proven this for 3 years in the playoffs and also during the season. Playoffs he's always been not good enough...probably because a lack of speed, toughness and the fact that he's a guy who flourishes in open spaces.He isn't a player who gets dirty AT ALL. He doesn't battle. Mcdavid battles...Ovechkin battles..hell I seen Kessel battle as a Leaf more than Marner.

During the season he goes through hot and cold streaks. He's trending downward without Matthews... Down to only 5 points above a ppg and a plus minus of zero. No excuse for a player on a line with Tavares and Matthews all season to only have 5 points above a ppg (20th in points and even lower in p/pg). his plus minus of 0 means his defense isn't offsetting as much as people want to believe. He isn't even close to Bergeron level defense.

I like him (but absolutely not at his cap %) but with Nylander extension coming and Bunting...and Marner having an incoming NMC, we need to consider getting top dollar for him. He's just gonna want to be paid a ridiculous amount again or else bye bye as a UFA for nothing.
 
Antropovsky said:
Watch the replays... Matthews was the line drivers and created his points. While Marners benefitted from his linemates play. That's the difference. Points don't tell the whole story...Cheechoo scored 50 goals beside Thornton but he wouldn't have elsewhere. Same can be said about players who collect points on lines with Crosby or McDavid.

Marner is good but not in the class respective to his play. He's proven this for 3 years in the playoffs and also during the season. Playoffs he's always been not good enough...probably because a lack of speed, toughness and the fact that he's a guy who flourishes in open spaces.He isn't a player who gets dirty AT ALL. He doesn't battle. Mcdavid battles...Ovechkin battles..hell I seen Kessel battle as a Leaf more than Marner.

During the season he goes through hot and cold streaks. He's trending downward without Matthews... Down to only 5 points above a ppg and a plus minus of zero. No excuse for a player on a line with Tavares and Matthews all season to only have 5 points above a ppg (20th in points and even lower in p/pg). his plus minus of 0 means his defense isn't offsetting as much as people want to believe. He isn't even close to Bergeron level defense.

I like him (but absolutely not at his cap %) but with Nylander extension coming and Bunting...and Marner having an incoming NMC, we need to consider getting top dollar for him. He's just gonna want to be paid a ridiculous amount again or else bye bye as a UFA for nothing.
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Game 5 against Tampa Bay yes it may have been Matthews scoring the game winning goal, however who was it that first got a shot on Vasilevskiy and Matthews was able to score on the rebound? Oh that's right it was Mitch Marner.

 
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Marner when he plays well, wins his matchups, but doesn't pick up as many points because the goalie stood on his head: I DON'T CARE! POINTS ARE EVERYTHING! HE SUCKS!
Marner when he plays well, wins his matchups, and picks up the points despite facing the best playoff goalie of the modern era: Yeah.. but, like.. the points don't tell the whole story. None of his points actually count. His linemates carried him. He still sucks!

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It's bizarre that people get more pleasure from players 'failing' so that they can be proven right as opposed to wanting to root for them to do well and get enjoyment from the team succeeding. Strange priorities. If this team finds any post-season success, it's only going to happen with all of Matthews, Nylander, Marner and Tavares performing well.
 
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1specter said:
It's bizarre that people get more pleasure from players 'failing' so that they can be proven right as opposed to wanting to root for them to do well and get enjoyment from the team succeeding. Strange priorities. If this team finds any post-season success, it's only going to happen with all of Matthews, Nylander, Marner and Tavares performing well.
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I honestly believe if it wasn't for those phantom penalties in the 3rd period of Game 6 when the Lighting tied the game on that 5v3, the Leafs would have won that series last year.

At that time Matthews, Marner, Tavares, and Nylander were all performing well, and it was Tavares who had those 2 goals late in the 2nd period giving Toronto a 3-2 lead at that time.
 
PromisedLand said:
looking at juniors even Bedard has heavier shot than Marner and he is still a undrafted junior 



I really wish Marner had worked on his shot in the offseason.



Too bad he got carjacked, and then some other shit happened to him too if am not mistaken; not the summer where marner could have focused 100% mentally

Bedard probably has a better shot than Matthews.



He's going to be a generational goal scorer
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PromisedLand said:
looking at juniors even Bedard has heavier shot than Marner and he is still a undrafted junior :laugh:

I really wish Marner had worked on his shot in the offseason.

Too bad he got carjacked, and then some other shit happened to him too if am not mistaken; not the summer where marner could have focused 100% mentally
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Marner has a good shot, he just scored 35 goals last year, and has been pacing 30 goals a season since the 20-21 season. The issue wasn't really his shot but more about identifying opportunities to shoot with confidence and not pass it off / defer. He's come a long way over the last 3 years in that regard.
 
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1specter said:
Marner has a good shot, he just scored 35 goals last year, and has been pacing 30 goals a season since the 20-21 season. The issue wasn't really his shot but more about identifying opportunities to shoot with confidence and not pass it off / defer. He's come a long way over the last 3 years in that regard.
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In the 2019-20 Season here was an overtime goal Marner had against Ottawa on a one-timer and this was at a time when he was expected to pass the puck.



Even though his shot has come along way since that time, back then if teams didn't expect him to shot he could surprise them like in that game.
 
PromisedLand said:
looking at juniors even Bedard has heavier shot than Marner and he is still a undrafted junior :laugh:

I really wish Marner had worked on his shot in the offseason.

Too bad he got carjacked, and then some other shit happened to him too if am not mistaken; not the summer where marner could have focused 100% mentally
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To be fair Bedard has one of the best shots in the world, it’s an elite NHL shot already
 
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LeafsNation75 said:
In the 2019-20 Season here was an overtime goal Marner had against Ottawa on a one-timer and this was at a time when he was expected to pass the puck.



Even though his shot has come along way since that time, back then if teams didn't expect him to shot he could surprise them like in that game.
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It's also worth nothing that most of Marner's goals come off of clean shots and open looks rather than tips/deflections/rebounds or 'garbage' type goals, which backs up that he does in fact have a good shot.
 
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1specter said:
It's also worth nothing that most of Marner's goals come off of clean shots and open looks rather than tips/deflections/rebounds or 'garbage' type goals, which backs up that he does in fact have a good shot.
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I want to say that Marner's overtime goal against Calgary is one of the times he scored off a rebound, although it was a rebound off his own shot on goal.

 
LeafsNation75 said:
Game 5 against Tampa Bay yes it may have been Matthews scoring the game winning goal, however who was it that first got a shot on Vasilevskiy and Matthews was able to score on the rebound? Oh that's right it was Mitch Marner.

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This is exactly my point... And a play I've brought up by erous times in the past. This is all Matthews and Bunting. Marner got the easy part, he's standing in open ice while his linemates physically wrestle the puck from Tampa and serve the puck on a platter for a 2-1. As for a shot for a rebound... I saw the exact play by a career ahl player. It's a standard play.

I read an article about Matthews goal and how he reached 60..and according to advanced stats Bunting had pretty much the same value to Matthews as Marner did in scoring. Yes, less than $900 000 Bunting.
 
Antropovsky said:
This is exactly my point... And a play I've brought up by erous times in the past. This is all Matthews and Bunting. Marner got the easy part, he's standing in open ice while his linemates physically wrestle the puck from Tampa and serve the puck on a platter for a 2-1. As for a shot for a rebound... I saw the exact play by a career ahl player. It's a standard play.

I read an article about Matthews goal and how he reached 60..and according to advanced stats Bunting had pretty much the same value to Matthews as Marner did in scoring. Yes, less than $900 000 Bunting.
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Some people might say Matthews had the easy part because all he had to do was shot the puck into the open net, which only happened because of Marner's shot on goal that caused the rebound.
 
Antropovsky said:
This is exactly my point... And a play I've brought up by erous times in the past. This is all Matthews and Bunting. Marner got the easy part, he's standing in open ice while his linemates physically wrestle the puck from Tampa and serve the puck on a platter for a 2-1. As for a shot for a rebound... I saw the exact play by a career ahl player. It's a standard play.

I read an article about Matthews goal and how he reached 60..and according to advanced stats Bunting had pretty much the same value to Matthews as Marner did in scoring. Yes, less than $900 000 Bunting.
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Put up the article. I really want to see which idiot attributes Bunting with the same impact as Marner. It is just so stupid, an award should be given.
 
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LeafsNation75 said:
Some people might say Matthews had the easy part because all he had to do was shot the puck into the open net, which only happened because of Marner's shot on goal that caused the rebound.
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Getting a 2-1 served on a platter to you, while standing still with nobody around you? All he had to do is skate forward and shoot a low pad shot.

Matthews literally caught the puck carrier, physically separated him from the puck, tapped the puck backwards to Bunting and pivoted into offensive mode all in one second...to catch-up to Marner and create the two on one.
 
Notsince67 said:
Put up the article. I really want to see which idiot attributes Bunting with the same impact as Marner. It is just so stupid, an award should be given.
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I'll gladly do it, once you do any work to proved your point outside of demanding others to prove theirs. I've said numerous times that articles say Marner isn't actually among the elite players in terms of advanced stats.

You obviously disagree.... So show me this year's stats that indicate he's among the best and ill gladly show the article.

You never have any hard evidence to your opinion... All you do is say haha, he's an idiot, OMG!!! They're dumb...and have demands for evidence but then disappear or out right refuse once your asked to do the same.

Show me the advanced stats with Marner sitting among the best and ill gladly post the link.
 
Hahaha hot goalies was the excuse for three years now. Look he's paid more than Vasi and Price... If the excuse is he can't beat goalies, that are paid less than he is, then he doesn't deserve to be paid what he is.

Kampf beat Vasi twice.
 
Notsince67 said:
Put up the article. I really want to see which idiot attributes Bunting with the same impact as Marner. It is just so stupid, an award should be given.
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I never thought I would see the day when someone suggests Bunting deserves more credit than Marner because he forced a turnover and because of his salary.

Antropovsky said:
Getting a 2-1 served on a platter to you, while standing still with nobody around you? All he had to do is skate forward and shoot a low pad shot.

Matthews literally caught the puck carrier, physically separated him from the puck, tapped the puck backwards to Bunting and pivoted into offensive mode all in one second...to catch-up to Marner and create the two on one.
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What if Marner shot the puck wide and it went behind the net, that would mean no rebound for Matthews.

You may think Marner got served a 2 on 1 on a platter, however it's what he did with the puck that's what counts.
 
Antropovsky said:
I'll gladly do it, once you do any work to proved your point outside of demanding others to prove theirs. I've said numerous times that articles say Marner isn't actually among the elite players in terms of advanced stats.

You obviously disagree.... So show me this year's stats that indicate he's among the best and ill gladly show the article.

You never have any hard evidence to your opinion... All you do is say haha, he's an idiot, OMG!!! They're dumb...and have demands for evidence but then disappear or out right refuse once your asked to do the same.

Show me the advanced stats with Marner sitting among the best and ill gladly post the link.
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Heh. Lets just call it a bs pretense of an article and take credit for that turd of an analysis.
The prize is yours

:dunce:
 
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Notsince67 said:
Heh. Lets just call it a bs pretense of an article and take credit for that turd of an analysis.
The prize is yours

:dunce:
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Haha....

How about I post mine first then?

If I post first, then will you post your evidence that supports Marner being a top player and explain what your evidence means.

I'm just showing everyone your all trash talk.
 
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