Absolutely nothing wrong with being a Marner fan. The Marner fans you're referring to are actually great posters too, notsince67 actually has pretty good takes and insight on almost everything when he's not attacking people who criticize Marner.
LOL I've thought exactly the same thing. I remember reading some of his posts and thinking that's weird, this seems to be pretty well thought out, is this really the same person who sounds like a petulant grade 3 kid when Marner is being discussed?
They were MIA for a few days there, maybe it's the nice weather we've been having and they've been playing golf or something.
I think no one has a problem calling marner out its why just him. Matthew marner nylander tavares all with no goals in the first three games
I've seen all of them being criticized, try reading the other threads.
Think you mean game 3 and I don't recall seeing anyone say he played well in that game.
Sure he could say many things and people would be all over it regardless and really it has no bearing on what happens on the ice.
No i mean everyone called him out game 4 when we lost in OT, he was all around timid, soft and turnover prone
Oh f*** i am an idiot, then yea I mean game 3 called out and game 4 some praise
Yes…yes I did please excuse my stupidity, but don’t miss my point
I'm not biased, I haven't had favorites on this team for awhile now, I'll call out whoever is playing bad.
I didn't bother watching yesterdays game, but after Panthers came within 1 goal, the highlights show Marner giving the puck away in his defensive zone when he had plenty of room to get the puck out of the zone. Leading to a shot again that made the highlights. Every game he seems to do this a few times, while the other leafs stars don't.
..... Nylander makes 7 million. Why is he held to the same standard as 11 million Marner? Nylander quite easily has been the more dangerous offensive player between he and Marner. Additionally Nylander is occasionally on the 2nd pp... While Marner is on the first. Pretty sure the PP is a major source of goals for most playoff teams.
Exactly.
Make more sense now, lol. I understand your point completely.
Funny how that didn't stop you from providing incorrect commentary on that thing you didn't bother watching.
Gee, it's almost like you're taking all-situations expected goals for some reason (or trying to, since the numbers aren't even accurate), and then comparing players who only play even strength and powerplay (game situations which impact expected goals neutrally and positively) to somebody who plays more defensively deployed even strength minutes, the powerplay, and most importantly, the penalty kill, which will obviously negatively impact all-situations expected goal metrics relative to those who don't PK.
You can check out zone starts on moneypuck, the numbers don't seem like they'd have much of an impact. What do you have in mind when you ask about "situation"?
OK I had a closer look and is looks like this is misleading. Maybe these number include PK situations which obviously make Marner look worse? Not sure what you're looking at but when I look at 5on5 numbers, these numbers are pretty similar for all these guys.
He's not only not factoring in that Marner plays more defensive even strength minutes, but way worse, he's comparing numbers that include PK time for Marner to numbers that do not include PK time for the others, completing skewing the results to negatively represent Marner in comparison.
