Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread

[SprDaVE]

Checking up on Kressler, he's only at 3 points in 5 games, which puts him just behind top producer Othmann who has 6 points in 5 games (Rangers 1st round).

Flint is not a very good team from what I read but I haven't watched them, so could be unfair. Lowest scoring team in the entire OHL... but they also played the least amount of games so we'll see how they fair once they catch up.

Should be interesting how he does rest of the way on a bad team.

 

[stickty111]

Checking up on Kressler, he's only at 3 points in 5 games, which puts him just behind top producer Othmann who has 6 points in 5 games (Rangers 1st round).

Flint is not a very good team from what I read but I haven't watched them, so could be unfair. Lowest scoring team in the entire OHL... but they also played the least amount of games so we'll see how they fair once they catch up.

Should be interesting how he does rest of the way on a bad team.

Voit has had a decent start with 6 points in 5 games. I could be wrong but I think Sarnia is supposed to be a decent team this year but they are 1-3-2 to start.

 

[LeafChief]

Holy f*** Steeves is fast.

Just scored his first AHL goal in his second game. Grabbed an assist in his first game.

 

[Prominence]

Checking up on Kressler, he's only at 3 points in 5 games, which puts him just behind top producer Othmann who has 6 points in 5 games (Rangers 1st round).

Flint is not a very good team from what I read but I haven't watched them, so could be unfair. Lowest scoring team in the entire OHL... but they also played the least amount of games so we'll see how they fair once they catch up.

Should be interesting how he does rest of the way on a bad team.

I’ve watched him sparingly. He’s not the most skilled guy, but he’s got a good motor and tenacity for a small guy. He likes to engage the opposing player with the puck. He plays in all situations with strong pking acumen. He’s a good elc signing as he adds some diversification to the pool. In terms of points, i wouldn’t expect more than 1.25-1.35 points per game.

edit: whoops. I meant to say 1.25-1.35 points per game in his draft+2. Thanks for the callout. He’s our best penalty killer prospect for forwards by far.

 

[diehardleafsfan9878]

I’ve watched him sparingly. He’s not the most skilled guy, but he’s got a good motor and tenacity for a small guy. He likes to engage the opposing player with the puck. He plays in all situations with strong pking acumen. He’s a good elc signing as he adds some diversification to the pool. In terms of points, i wouldn’t expect more than 1.25-1.35 points per game.

Most players who score at that pace in the AHL end up being NHL Allstars. Especially at his age.

 

[zeke]

Holy f*** Steeves is fast.

Just scored his first AHL goal in his second game. Grabbed an assist in his first game.

Always worry about skating with college guys but this seems like legit NHL plus speed.

Automatically makes him a better prospect than I thought.

 

[LeafChief]

Steeves just scored again. Wicked shot.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Steeves just scored again. Wicked shot.

Hosang added one on a break away

 

[Leaf Fans]

With the 5-2 win, The Marlies are a game over .500.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Trade Kerfoot, call up Ho-Sang when?

 

[SprDaVE]

Holy f*** Steeves is fast.

Just scored his first AHL goal in his second game. Grabbed an assist in his first game.

Steeves looks like a legit prospect ever since his rookie camp performance. That is some NHL level skating speed and power. I'm not sure about his skill level but obviously that doesn't seem like an issue so far playing with Ho-Sang.

I really wonder how he would have been seen at the NHL training camp if he wasn't injured.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Holy f*** Steeves is fast.

Just scored his first AHL goal in his second game. Grabbed an assist in his first game.

What if I told you that skating speed was often seen as his biggest weakness.

That and I think shot power.

Neither seemed like issues in that game.

 

[Prominence]

Abbruzzese is money on the pp. made a good pass to get a zone exit, distributes puck well and got a secondary assist.

edit:

Tverberg is playing on 2nd line due to injury to another rw. Tverberg drew 2 penalties, but uconn is struggling with controlled entries for the pp. He’s generating opportunities though.

The toyberg assists! He taps it to schlaine after a 50/50 battle who then passes it to the goal scorer. Scores on empty net.

voit goal and assist.
Kressler one goal and assist.
joe miller 1 goal
Abruzzese 4 assists.
Ryan Tverberg 1 goal, 1 assist

 

[Maplebeasts]

Abbruzzese is money on the pp. made a good pass to get a zone exit, distributes puck well and got a secondary assist.

edit: another assist for abruzzese on 4v4. Secondary. One more primary assist. 3 assists.
Tverberg is playing on 2nd line due to injury to another rw.

He's actually unbelievable. Granted he's 22 but if he keeps it up I could see him signing his ELC and playing on the Leafs in the playoffs if they get there.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Trade Kerfoot, call up Ho-Sang when?

Ho- Sang my not pass through waivers at the moment.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Abruzzese picking up where he left off a year and a half ago I see. Hopefully he can keep it up and turn pro at the end of this year. Big fan but his later age entering college and time missed is scary for development. The more he looks like this the less worried I am

 

[Canada4Gold]

Ho- Sang my not pass through waivers at the moment.

Does that apply to guys on AHL only deals as well? I assumed it was Euro only and because the AHL was affiliated with the NHL it didn't apply to guys signed out of the AHL.

So essentially the Leafs would be better off if someone else signed Ho-Sang so they could claim him off waivers(essentially blocking teams below them in waiver priority from having the chance to take him) rather than them signing him themselves and hoping he clears? That's dumb.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Does that apply to guys on AHL only deals as well? I assumed it was Euro only and because the AHL was affiliated with the NHL it didn't apply to guys signed out of the AHL.

So essentially the Leafs would be better off if someone else signed Ho-Sang so they could claim him off waivers(essentially blocking teams below them in waiver priority from having the chance to take him) rather than them signing him themselves and hoping he clears? That's dumb.

Huh? Maybe, I haven't looked up the rule, but I think Scotty Sabs had to go through waivers.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Huh? Maybe, I haven't looked up the rule, but I think Scotty Sabs had to go through waivers.

I wasn't saying you were wrong. Just an assumption on my part because signing a player out of the AHL you're signing a player on a team you're affiliated with even if you're not affiliated with that specific player because he was on an AHL deal only.

Sabourin did indeed go through waivers.

Seems pretty dumb that Ho-Sang would be more likely to be a Leaf if they convinced some other team to sign him so they could claim him rather than just signing him themselves.

 

[LeafChief]

Voit with 1 goal and 1 assist tonight.
Tverberg with 1 goal and 1 assist tonight.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Voit with 1 goal and 1 assist tonight.
Tverberg with 1 goal and 1 assist tonight.

Kressler as well.

 

[Zookeeper]

I wasn't saying you were wrong. Just an assumption on my part because signing a player out of the AHL you're signing a player on a team you're affiliated with even if you're not affiliated with that specific player because he was on an AHL deal only.

Sabourin did indeed go through waivers.

Seems pretty dumb that Ho-Sang would be more likely to be a Leaf if they convinced some other team to sign him so they could claim him rather than just signing him themselves.

If the leafs want to sign him to an nhl deal they can do that without waivers. If they sign him and want to put him back down then he needs waivers to do so.

 

[Canada4Gold]

If the leafs want to sign him to an nhl deal they can do that without waivers. If they sign him and want to put him back down then he needs waivers to do so.

The rule we're discussing is that if a team signs a player after the season has started that isn't their property and that player has played in another league since the NHL season started they have to pass through waivers before they can join the team. Evgeny Nabakov in the 2010-11 season for example. Played in the KHL, signed with Detroit in January. They had to put him on waivers before he could play for them, the Islanders claimed him. He refused to report because he only wanted to come back over that year for a contender and he proceeded to sit out the rest of the season.

Another famous example is the Flames offer sheeting ROR in 2013. Had Colorado not matched and he became Flames property at the cost of multiple draft picks the Flames would have had to put him on waivers before he could play for them because he wasn't their property at the time of signing and had played in the KHL that year after the NHL season had started. Colorado matched and saved the Flames from an embarassment and probably would have been a true fireable offense for the GM.

I wasn't sure if that rule applied because the other league Ho-Sang has played in is the AHL for a team that's affiliated with the Leafs but apparently it still would. Which is dumb.

 

[Folignos Helmet]

I think we will need minimum 2 of Robertson, Amirov, Steeves, Abruzesse or others to step into the lineup with our cap next year.

would be great if later 2 could be nice hidden gems to at least make bottom 6.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

The rule we're discussing is that if a team signs a player after the season has started that isn't their property and that player has played in another league since the NHL season started they have to pass through waivers before they can join the team. Evgeny Nabakov in the 2010-11 season for example. Played in the KHL, signed with Detroit in January. They had to put him on waivers before he could play for them, the Islanders claimed him. He refused to report because he only wanted to come back over that year for a contender and he proceeded to sit out the rest of the season.

Another famous example is the Flames offer sheeting ROR in 2013. Had Colorado not matched and he became Flames property at the cost of multiple draft picks the Flames would have had to put him on waivers before he could play for them because he wasn't their property at the time of signing and had played in the KHL that year after the NHL season had started. Colorado matched and saved the Flames from an embarassment and probably would have been a true fireable offense for the GM.

I wasn't sure if that rule applied because the other league Ho-Sang has played in is the AHL for a team that's affiliated with the Leafs but apparently it still would. Which is dumb.

That rule is Re-Entry waivers. That was abolished in 2013.

Ho-Sang would not need waivers to play in the NHL after signing an SPC. He would need waivers to go back down to the Marlies though, and since he should have a very lengthy stint with the Marlies before getting another sniff at the NHL, I highly doubt we sign him to an SPC any time soon. That is especially the case when we have plenty of quality alternatives on the Marlies who do not require as many hoops and have played just as well, if not better, than Ho-Sang so far anyways (Seney, Anderson, and Semyonov most notably).