Prospect Info: Marlies & Prospect Discussion

[shaner8989]

Marlies outshot them 31-23. Marlies were the far better team. Goaltending was the difference

 

[Fogelhund]

Minten on the PP... I mean... all that space, and he passes... take the space, and shoot.

 

[MoreMogilny]

Minten on the PP... I mean... all that space, and he passes... take the space, and shoot.

He looks awful. I was yelling at my TV. Just slowly meandering around the ice. It’s a 5 on 3 and he looks like he’d rather be anywhere else in the world

 

[francis246]

Leafs need to look into signing or drafting this Owen Allard kid. Been passed up on two drafts no?

6’2 LH Shot can play both the wing and Center.

 

[Leafidelity]

Oh man, open net

 

[Future]

Whenever I watch Minten play he just comes off as a guy with zero confidence in his game.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Minten just doesn't seem that good. He has some hype as a guy who made the NHL this year and being named captain, but he doesn't play at an overly high level. He's mostly just there and won't hurt you much

 

[Leafidelity]

Whenever I watch Minten play he just comes off as a guy with zero confidence in his game.

Thats what Im seeing too. Hard to get a read on Cowan because Poitras is trying to go 1v5 every time he gets the puck

 

[BertCorbeau]

Minten just doesn't seem that good. He has some hype as a guy who made the NHL this year and being named captain, but he doesn't play at an overly high level. He's mostly just there and won't hurt you much

He's definitely more of a cerebral player .. like Tavares but without elite skill. That's his high floor basically, as you describe. His ability to play in the top 9 solely depends on how his offensive game progresses

 

[Twine Tickler]

Minten has been pretty bad today IMO. Looks a bit too pedestrian with the puck on his tape. Has had a couple tough plays in his own end as well. Definitely needs to be better.

Cowan has had a decent game I've thought. Still looks like he's trying to do a bit too much with the puck. He's just gotta stick to the basics.

really not concerned about point totals for either player. Although it is nice to see, it really means f*** all long term from a development standpoint. It's just nice to see these guys play in high pressure tournaments like this

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

He's definitely more of a cerebral player .. like Tavares but without elite skill. That's his high floor basically, as you describe. His ability to play in the top 9 solely depends on how his offensive game progresses

I knew he didn't have elite skill, but I'm seriously questioning if he even has NHL skill. I think we can safely say he will still end up playing in the NHL thanks to his IQ and size, but he's looking more and more like a 4th line defensive specialist

 

[Oscar Peterson]

TOPI his last 10 games is
4G 5A and +10

Adjusting very nicely to North America it seems.

I was at the Marlies game yesterday and thought he looked like the best player. Still raw but he had the best positioning by far.

 

[hullsy47]

He looks like a 2nd

I knew he didn't have elite skill, but I'm seriously questioning if he even has NHL skill. I think we can safely say he will still end up playing in the NHL thanks to his IQ and size, but he's looking more and more like a 4th line defensive specialist

He looks like a second round pick

 

[Alerion]

Seems like Minten is being too deferential, playing on the wing and with more skilled players. He's doing all the simple "team" things but not adding any value at all, at least in these first two games.

Noticed Cowan battling along the boards in the Finland game but not really today.

Definitely two snoozer games if you're watching strictly for these prospects.

 

[Oscar Peterson]

I knew he didn't have elite skill, but I'm seriously questioning if he even has NHL skill. I think we can safely say he will still end up playing in the NHL thanks to his IQ and size, but he's looking more and more like a 4th line defensive specialist

That’s what I thought when he was up with us to start the year. His defensive positioning and poke check are really good but the play would die on his stick every time. I wouldn’t mind a 4th line pure defensive specialist though but I’m also finding it hard to imagine him becoming more than that though the physical tools are there

 

[Leafidelity]

Owen Allard seems interesting for a player that may be around for our draft pick. LW, 6'2 200lbs already.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

That’s what I thought when he was up with us to start the year. His defensive positioning and poke check are really good but the play would die on his stick every time. I wouldn’t mind a 4th line pure defensive specialist though but I’m also finding it hard to imagine him becoming more than that though the physical tools are there

Problem is the Leafs have already committed 4 years to David Kampf to fill that role as a defense only 4C. I think now would be a good time to sell high on Minten

 

[djdev]

they should put minten and cowan together imo, those 2 had some solid games for the leafs in preseason.

 

[Alerion]

Minten scores, bit of a muffin from the goalie but it's good to see him directing pucks on net. He could stand to play a bit more selfish/determined.

 

[LeafParade]

Problem is the Leafs have already committed 4 years to David Kampf to fill that role as a defense only 4C. I think now would be a good time to sell high on Minten

I am not moving players because of Kampf.
Kampf is not good enough of player to be impacting other player's future on the team.
If anything I am selling "high" on Kampf before people figure out he isn't worth 2.4 M.

 

[francis246]

Owen Allard seems interesting for a player that may be around for our draft pick. LW, 6'2 200lbs already.

I wouldn’t waste a first rounder on him but I’d grab him with a later pick.

 

[Future]

Cowan’s been trying to do too much all day here

… and benched the final 4-5 minutes.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

When did the prospect thread become the Game Whiner Thread?

 

[Future]

When did the prospect thread become the Game Whiner Thread?

Why are you so upset? It’s prospect discussion. Are we only supposed to pump their tires? All fair criticism.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Why are you so upset? It’s prospect discussion. Are we only supposed to pump their tires? All fair criticism.

1) Your speculation about a teenage boys confidence levels are not criticism, its speculation.

2) There are game day threads available for the little thoughts that pop into your head about the game as it happens.

3) This isn't a whiny thread, its one of the only feel good threads we have on the leafs board and it's nice coming in here and not listening to people bitch and moan about how awful everything is about everything related to this team.

4) I'm not upset, we just won a game 10-0 as a nation and we have the leafs to watch later today. It's a good day.